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Male Performer Chat: emo fun and igor joney no longer on F4F
I spoke with denys (emo fun) and he told me that both he and his brother igor have been banned from F4F for doing a show together at a member's request.
That sucks, because both of them are outstanding performers. I, for one, will surely miss them.
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That sucks, because both of them are outstanding performers. I, for one, will surely miss them.
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ronnie-uk
3/9/12 @ 6:03pm
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Location: London, UK
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... same here. That is a big shame. Had another hot Group Chat with Igor just 4 days ago.
Interested to know what the rules are. I was chatting to another performer in open chat who asked me if I was interested in a duo show. I asked: "Are you allowed?" and he said: "Yes - in private. Just for you". I didn't take him up on the offer, as I am very happy with solo shows. Quote
Interested to know what the rules are. I was chatting to another performer in open chat who asked me if I was interested in a duo show. I asked: "Are you allowed?" and he said: "Yes - in private. Just for you". I didn't take him up on the offer, as I am very happy with solo shows. Quote
... same here. That is a big shame. Had another hot Group Chat with Igor just 4 days ago.
Interested to know what the rules are. I was chatting to another performer in open chat who asked me if I was interested in a duo show. I asked: "Are you allowed?" and he said: "Yes - in private. Just for you". I didn't take him up on the offer, as I am very happy with solo shows.
The rules are clear:
If it is a solo account, that means only 1 person on cam.
Duos and trios all are supposed to be on cam.
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Interested to know what the rules are. I was chatting to another performer in open chat who asked me if I was interested in a duo show. I asked: "Are you allowed?" and he said: "Yes - in private. Just for you". I didn't take him up on the offer, as I am very happy with solo shows.
The rules are clear:
If it is a solo account, that means only 1 person on cam.
Duos and trios all are supposed to be on cam.
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phil_usa
3/9/12 @ 6:45pm
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...They have done a lot of show together for a long time, but that was under a duo account. The shows they do together are J/O shows, nothing else.
...I can only assume that this show was done as a favor to someone while they were still in their single account. Quote
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ronnie-uk
3/9/12 @ 11:43pm
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Location: London, UK
Posts: 2,381
The rules are clear:
If it is a solo account, that means only 1 person on cam.
Duos and trios all are supposed to be on cam.
Thanks, paperpunch.
I am wondering if the rules weren't clear to Igor and Emo, or whether they weren't aware that having 2 performers on screen was a sackable offence. Without knowing the full story, it seems a bit harsh to me.
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It is in cest. Does it really need to be spelled out in the rules? I hold this truth to be self-evident.
Also, I was in another model's room while he was trying to do a group, and one of them jumped into the room and offered to do the same thing for half price. I heard of a repeat performance in another model's room while they were in private.
I am sorry if you liked them, but they weren't my cup of tea.
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Also, I was in another model's room while he was trying to do a group, and one of them jumped into the room and offered to do the same thing for half price. I heard of a repeat performance in another model's room while they were in private.
I am sorry if you liked them, but they weren't my cup of tea.
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ronnie-uk
3/14/12 @ 11:01am
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Location: London, UK
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It is in cest. Does it really need to be spelled out in the rules? I hold this truth to be self-evident.
Also, I was in another model's room while he was trying to do a group, and one of them jumped into the room and offered to do the same thing for half price. I heard of a repeat performance in another model's room while they were in private.
I am sorry if you liked them, but they weren't my cup of tea.
You know I don't like to disagree with you, Kheldar, but....
You will have noticed that there are new twins performing together here. They are posting very prominently in the forums. (Too much in fact - they have just added 3 posts in a row to one of my topics). However, it does suggest that the site rules do allow brothers to perform together if they have a duo account.
I admit that I find the idea a little uncomfortable, but there are performers and shows for a wide range of tastes here.
I only ever saw Igor Joney do solo shows. He is a remarkable performer, and I am sorry he has been banned.
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Also, I was in another model's room while he was trying to do a group, and one of them jumped into the room and offered to do the same thing for half price. I heard of a repeat performance in another model's room while they were in private.
I am sorry if you liked them, but they weren't my cup of tea.
You know I don't like to disagree with you, Kheldar, but....
You will have noticed that there are new twins performing together here. They are posting very prominently in the forums. (Too much in fact - they have just added 3 posts in a row to one of my topics). However, it does suggest that the site rules do allow brothers to perform together if they have a duo account.
I admit that I find the idea a little uncomfortable, but there are performers and shows for a wide range of tastes here.
I only ever saw Igor Joney do solo shows. He is a remarkable performer, and I am sorry he has been banned.
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You know I don't like to disagree with you, Kheldar, but....
You will have noticed that there are new twins performing together here. They are posting very prominently in the forums. (Too much in fact - they have just added 3 posts in a row to one of my topics). However, it does suggest that the site rules do allow brothers to perform together if they have a duo account.
I admit that I find the idea a little uncomfortable, but there are performers and shows for a wide range of tastes here.
I only ever saw Igor Joney do solo shows. He is a remarkable performer, and I am sorry he has been banned.
The duo you refer to claim not be real brothers. Obviously though they are trying to market themselves to people who have that fantasy. In cest is illegal in many states and countries; allowing the broadcast of that could get VS into a tremendous amount of trouble. Putting the legality aside though, it still is just plain wrong and disgusting. Igor had a great body and look. I imagine his shows were quite hot, but I just can't get past his actions. At the same time I do feel for you since I would also feel pretty sh1tty if one of my favorites were to leave.
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shytrent1992
3/14/12 @ 10:04pm
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I will also miss Igor a lot he was the one model i was saving my credits for just for him!!! it kinda makes me upset. those to were the best i have ever seen!!! i am also a model on here & i will dearly miss them!!
god bless both of them & i hope i find them on another site or they come back
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god bless both of them & i hope i find them on another site or they come back
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A few weeks after their unfortunate departure, I would just like to say that I miss these guys very much. For me, they were among the best performers on this site. From what I know, I think their ban was unduly harsh.
As for the hint of wrong doing, I don't think you can call it that. As dual performers, they only got off next to each other. There was absolutely not anal. And they were clearly identical twins.
At this point, I am wondering if there is something we can do to bring them back. Quote
As for the hint of wrong doing, I don't think you can call it that. As dual performers, they only got off next to each other. There was absolutely not anal. And they were clearly identical twins.
At this point, I am wondering if there is something we can do to bring them back. Quote
I never saw one of their duo's but, for what it's worth, I saw one of the brothers decline several requests to do anything except jerk-off together. He simply said it didn't feel right.
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I spoke with denys (emo fun) and he told me that both he and his brother igor have been banned from F4F for doing a show together at a member's request.
That sucks, because both of them are outstanding performers. I, for one, will surely miss them.
I think the issue here is one of age documentation. The laws are very strict on how each person who appears on screen must have documentation for each performance (You know that "records" disclaimer and info on a black screen before every porno? Same thing.) Models must sign an electronic agreement , a contract specific to that model or multiple-model account, EVERY time they sign on. Having anyone on the screen other than the performer(s) who signed the agreement when logging on to broadcast over the F4F network could get everyone involved into a lot of trouble. Identity/age documentation laws are in place to protect kids and animals from being exploited, so the enforcement is very strict. F4F is just covering a lot of peoples' asses, and rightfully so, by doing this. Quote
That sucks, because both of them are outstanding performers. I, for one, will surely miss them.
I think the issue here is one of age documentation. The laws are very strict on how each person who appears on screen must have documentation for each performance (You know that "records" disclaimer and info on a black screen before every porno? Same thing.) Models must sign an electronic agreement , a contract specific to that model or multiple-model account, EVERY time they sign on. Having anyone on the screen other than the performer(s) who signed the agreement when logging on to broadcast over the F4F network could get everyone involved into a lot of trouble. Identity/age documentation laws are in place to protect kids and animals from being exploited, so the enforcement is very strict. F4F is just covering a lot of peoples' asses, and rightfully so, by doing this. Quote
I think the issue here is one of age documentation. The laws are very strict on how each person who appears on screen must have documentation for each performance (You know that "records" disclaimer and info on a black screen before every porno? Same thing.) Models must sign an electronic agreement , a contract specific to that model or multiple-model account, EVERY time they sign on. Having anyone on the screen other than the performer(s) who signed the agreement when logging on to broadcast over the F4F network could get everyone involved into a lot of trouble. Identity/age documentation laws are in place to protect kids and animals from being exploited, so the enforcement is very strict. F4F is just covering a lot of peoples' asses, and rightfully so, by doing this.
Nope, had nothing to do with age documentation. They simply jacked off together at the request of a VIP member and they got banned by some fucked up administrator from F4F
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OK, since no one seems to know the whole story, is there an administrator who is willing to clarify?
And can we members do anything to overturn the ban? Quote
And can we members do anything to overturn the ban? Quote
OK, since no one seems to know the whole story, is there an administrator who is willing to clarify?
And can we members do anything to overturn the ban? Quote
And can we members do anything to overturn the ban? Quote
