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Male Performer Chat: Losing Hope
Ted Long
Created by: Ted Long

10/9/15 @ 3:05pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

So I started on here at the end of June, and things were going pretty well. Of course, I wasn't making as much as the superstars make, but I was making enough to pay the bills, and get by. Now it seems that my income has gone down significantly, so bad that I am struggling to pay bills. I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

I work my ass off to make sure you guys are entertained, to keep you happy, to have fun, etc, but I can only last so long till I feel so let down that I need to get offline. I mean I threw THREE parties today, all a failure, and made 40 credits! I just don't get it, what am I doing wrong? I get told how sexy I am, how bad they want to be with me, how sweet I am etc., but am given no respect or appreciation through tips or even privates. In fact, I rarely get to go to private these days, which is seriously a disappointment.

What I really don't get is that I have people who come in my room with credits to spend, tell me how sexy I am, talk to me, or stay in my room the entire time I'm on and neither tip me or take me to private. I don't understand am I just a guy to go see to get free shows, or have a conversation with, and you save your credits for the superstars who are already making thousands of dollars already!

Why come in my room everyday and not say a word to me, why come in my room everyday and not tell me what you like or want to see, why come in my room if you don't plan to spend money on me. I don't mean that to those of you who can't, I am understanding about that. I feel extremely unappreciated, I feel regretful for thinking I could do this full time. I don't know how to satisfy my viewers anymore...

It seems that everyday I am being favorited, the number keeps rising, up and up, as well as those who get notified when I'm online. Yet my income has gone way down, so down that I'm not making anything, not even enough to get gas. I mean even something as simple as voting for me, which is free is an ordeal. I have to beg people to vote for me... that's ridiculous, especially for people who are in my room the entire time complimenting me. It's nice, but it doesn't help me...

I just feel so unappealing, I feel unappreciated, and I am hurt... I don't know what to do, and I'd like to stay, but I can't live off nothing.

I'm open to hearing your thoughts, opinions, and views!

Sorry for my rant...

Sincerely,
Ted
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Andre Rico
Created by: Andre Rico

10/9/15 @ 3:47pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

So I started on here at the end of June, and things were going pretty well. Of course, I wasn't making as much as the superstars make, but I was making enough to pay the bills, and get by. Now it seems that my income has gone down significantly, so bad that I am struggling to pay bills. I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

I work my ass off to make sure you guys are entertained, to keep you happy, to have fun, etc, but I can only last so long till I feel so let down that I need to get offline. I mean I threw THREE parties today, all a failure, and made 40 credits! I just don't get it, what am I doing wrong? I get told how sexy I am, how bad they want to be with me, how sweet I am etc., but am given no respect or appreciation through tips or even privates. In fact, I rarely get to go to private these days, which is seriously a disappointment.

What I really don't get is that I have people who come in my room with credits to spend, tell me how sexy I am, talk to me, or stay in my room the entire time I'm on and neither tip me or take me to private. I don't understand am I just a guy to go see to get free shows, or have a conversation with, and you save your credits for the superstars who are already making thousands of dollars already!

Why come in my room everyday and not say a word to me, why come in my room everyday and not tell me what you like or want to see, why come in my room if you don't plan to spend money on me. I don't mean that to those of you who can't, I am understanding about that. I feel extremely unappreciated, I feel regretful for thinking I could do this full time. I don't know how to satisfy my viewers anymore...

It seems that everyday I am being favorited, the number keeps rising, up and up, as well as those who get notified when I'm online. Yet my income has gone way down, so down that I'm not making anything, not even enough to get gas. I mean even something as simple as voting for me, which is free is an ordeal. I have to beg people to vote for me... that's ridiculous, especially for people who are in my room the entire time complimenting me. It's nice, but it doesn't help me...

I just feel so unappealing, I feel unappreciated, and I am hurt... I don't know what to do, and I'd like to stay, but I can't live off nothing.

I'm open to hearing your thoughts, opinions, and views!

Sorry for my rant...

Sincerely,
Ted




I feel 100% identified with you, right now I'm in the same situation as you, sometimes it is outrageous that so many people dentre to your room and tell you you're beautiful and do not help not even a single vote that is to free for they.
I join your cause and also let me know that we are doing wrong so that in more than 5 hours of connection only enter customers with an exaggerated amount of credit and are unable not even give a tips of 10 credits to us, or does so bad models are? passing not understand anything of what they want us to understand our members or perhaps only interested in their welfare without thinking if we have to pay the gas or to eat tomorrow.

and that I leave to your judgment, I think it's better gastarle to a model that is just beginning, gastandole follow a model that is already in the Hall of Fame and every day it becomes richer.

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Created by: gofish

10/9/15 @ 5:30pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 1,858

So I started on here at the end of June, and things were going pretty well. Of course, I wasn't making as much as the superstars make, but I was making enough to pay the bills, and get by. Now it seems that my income has gone down significantly, so bad that I am struggling to pay bills. I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

I work my ass off to make sure you guys are entertained, to keep you happy, to have fun, etc, but I can only last so long till I feel so let down that I need to get offline. I mean I threw THREE parties today, all a failure, and made 40 credits! I just don't get it, what am I doing wrong? I get told how sexy I am, how bad they want to be with me, how sweet I am etc., but am given no respect or appreciation through tips or even privates. In fact, I rarely get to go to private these days, which is seriously a disappointment.

What I really don't get is that I have people who come in my room with credits to spend, tell me how sexy I am, talk to me, or stay in my room the entire time I'm on and neither tip me or take me to private. I don't understand am I just a guy to go see to get free shows, or have a conversation with, and you save your credits for the superstars who are already making thousands of dollars already!

Why come in my room everyday and not say a word to me, why come in my room everyday and not tell me what you like or want to see, why come in my room if you don't plan to spend money on me. I don't mean that to those of you who can't, I am understanding about that. I feel extremely unappreciated, I feel regretful for thinking I could do this full time. I don't know how to satisfy my viewers anymore...

It seems that everyday I am being favorited, the number keeps rising, up and up, as well as those who get notified when I'm online. Yet my income has gone way down, so down that I'm not making anything, not even enough to get gas. I mean even something as simple as voting for me, which is free is an ordeal. I have to beg people to vote for me... that's ridiculous, especially for people who are in my room the entire time complimenting me. It's nice, but it doesn't help me...

I just feel so unappealing, I feel unappreciated, and I am hurt... I don't know what to do, and I'd like to stay, but I can't live off nothing.

I'm open to hearing your thoughts, opinions, and views!

Sorry for my rant...

Sincerely,
Ted


Hey there Ted I understand where you are coming from and really wish I could help because you really are a great guy. As to why other don't follow through with anything I am at a complete loss.
I am not sure if you are aware of the notification system flaws. From what I can see the less you are online the longer the notification seems to go out, and I am pretty sure you are limited to perhaps one notification per day.
Sorry I was not a round when you were online there. While a lot of viewers are overly keen on seeing a performer naked they in my opinion miss out on a lot more.
Sending out tweets help just as long as you have a lot of followers. As for your RANT, well lets just say some viewers need to show more appreciation of the performers on the site.
Heck if they can't tip you with credits as least they could write a review. Members should cast a vote for you as well and hey there are those boost points.
Hey buddy I really hope things work out for you on the site. Guys like you are pretty rare and just for the record that in my opinion is a good thing.
Thanks for letting it all out. Just hope your posting gets read and that many comments are added to it.

:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Ted Long
Created by: Ted Long

10/10/15 @ 3:26pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00





I feel 100% identified with you, right now I'm in the same situation as you, sometimes it is outrageous that so many people dentre to your room and tell you you're beautiful and do not help not even a single vote that is to free for they.
I join your cause and also let me know that we are doing wrong so that in more than 5 hours of connection only enter customers with an exaggerated amount of credit and are unable not even give a tips of 10 credits to us, or does so bad models are? passing not understand anything of what they want us to understand our members or perhaps only interested in their welfare without thinking if we have to pay the gas or to eat tomorrow.

and that I leave to your judgment, I think it's better gastarle to a model that is just beginning, gastandole follow a model that is already in the Hall of Fame and every day it becomes richer.





All we can hope is that more people see this to realize that we are human too. That this is not only fun for us, although it is, but a job too!
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Created by: gofish

10/10/15 @ 6:45pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 1,858




All we can hope is that more people see this to realize that we are human too. That this is not only fun for us, although it is, but a job too!


Alas the one who really need to see this sadly don't read forum posting. Seems their attention is purely visual if you get what I mean.
It is up to the site to make things easier for you performers and for the regular viewers who manage to visit your room and interact with you.
I sometimes think that perhaps too many performers might be online at the same time.
Just my :twocents :twocents worth of comment.
In any case wish the best for all performers
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JJinUK
Created by: jjinuk

10/10/15 @ 9:33pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 4



Alas the one who really need to see this sadly don't read forum posting. Seems their attention is purely visual if you get what I mean.
It is up to the site to make things easier for you performers and for the regular viewers who manage to visit your room and interact with you.
I sometimes think that perhaps too many performers might be online at the same time.
Just my :twocents :twocents worth of comment.
In any case wish the best for all performers


I don't believe there are more performers online now at any given time than in years past. Many new models start well and then experience exactly what Ted describes, while others have a enduring shelf life it seems. With FOTY the site is more competitive than ever with members supporting only their top favorites in some cases, so that could be a cause. One thing I'm sure of, you aren't the first model to experience this and you won't be the last either. Good luck hope all works out.

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Robert Smiley
Created by: Robert Smiley

10/10/15 @ 11:58pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

So I started on here at the end of June, and things were going pretty well. Of course, I wasn't making as much as the superstars make, but I was making enough to pay the bills, and get by. Now it seems that my income has gone down significantly, so bad that I am struggling to pay bills. I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

I work my ass off to make sure you guys are entertained, to keep you happy, to have fun, etc, but I can only last so long till I feel so let down that I need to get offline. I mean I threw THREE parties today, all a failure, and made 40 credits! I just don't get it, what am I doing wrong? I get told how sexy I am, how bad they want to be with me, how sweet I am etc., but am given no respect or appreciation through tips or even privates. In fact, I rarely get to go to private these days, which is seriously a disappointment.

What I really don't get is that I have people who come in my room with credits to spend, tell me how sexy I am, talk to me, or stay in my room the entire time I'm on and neither tip me or take me to private. I don't understand am I just a guy to go see to get free shows, or have a conversation with, and you save your credits for the superstars who are already making thousands of dollars already!

Why come in my room everyday and not say a word to me, why come in my room everyday and not tell me what you like or want to see, why come in my room if you don't plan to spend money on me. I don't mean that to those of you who can't, I am understanding about that. I feel extremely unappreciated, I feel regretful for thinking I could do this full time. I don't know how to satisfy my viewers anymore...

It seems that everyday I am being favorited, the number keeps rising, up and up, as well as those who get notified when I'm online. Yet my income has gone way down, so down that I'm not making anything, not even enough to get gas. I mean even something as simple as voting for me, which is free is an ordeal. I have to beg people to vote for me... that's ridiculous, especially for people who are in my room the entire time complimenting me. It's nice, but it doesn't help me...

I just feel so unappealing, I feel unappreciated, and I am hurt... I don't know what to do, and I'd like to stay, but I can't live off nothing.

I'm open to hearing your thoughts, opinions, and views!

Sorry for my rant...

Sincerely,
Ted


I can tell you only one thing man, and this is all you need here, if you understand this completely. NEVER,BUT NEVER LOSE HOPE!

All best!

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John Blastar
Created by: John Blastar

10/11/15 @ 4:05am (EST) |UTC - 5:00

So I started on here at the end of June, and things were going pretty well. Of course, I wasn't making as much as the superstars make, but I was making enough to pay the bills, and get by. Now it seems that my income has gone down significantly, so bad that I am struggling to pay bills. I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

I work my ass off to make sure you guys are entertained, to keep you happy, to have fun, etc, but I can only last so long till I feel so let down that I need to get offline. I mean I threw THREE parties today, all a failure, and made 40 credits! I just don't get it, what am I doing wrong? I get told how sexy I am, how bad they want to be with me, how sweet I am etc., but am given no respect or appreciation through tips or even privates. In fact, I rarely get to go to private these days, which is seriously a disappointment.

What I really don't get is that I have people who come in my room with credits to spend, tell me how sexy I am, talk to me, or stay in my room the entire time I'm on and neither tip me or take me to private. I don't understand am I just a guy to go see to get free shows, or have a conversation with, and you save your credits for the superstars who are already making thousands of dollars already!

Why come in my room everyday and not say a word to me, why come in my room everyday and not tell me what you like or want to see, why come in my room if you don't plan to spend money on me. I don't mean that to those of you who can't, I am understanding about that. I feel extremely unappreciated, I feel regretful for thinking I could do this full time. I don't know how to satisfy my viewers anymore...

It seems that everyday I am being favorited, the number keeps rising, up and up, as well as those who get notified when I'm online. Yet my income has gone way down, so down that I'm not making anything, not even enough to get gas. I mean even something as simple as voting for me, which is free is an ordeal. I have to beg people to vote for me... that's ridiculous, especially for people who are in my room the entire time complimenting me. It's nice, but it doesn't help me...

I just feel so unappealing, I feel unappreciated, and I am hurt... I don't know what to do, and I'd like to stay, but I can't live off nothing.

I'm open to hearing your thoughts, opinions, and views!

Sorry for my rant...

Sincerely,
Ted



too many models ;)
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paperpunch09
Created by: paperpunch09

10/11/15 @ 3:29pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: USA
Posts: 3,146

I left my job to do this full time, and really devote myself to you guys, but sadly things have gone down hill and I don't understand why. No one engages with me anymore, regulars, or not. I was online today for over two hours straight and had maybe 5 minutes of conversation.

You gave up a full time job to webcam? Very few performers, let alone new ones, are able to make enough using camming as the sole source of income. Take a look at the model bios or even the video page and you'll see hundreds of former models that weren't able to make a go of it.

The truth is members are fickle on cam sites. The love, credits, etc. flow to you then bam a new model catches our eye or a former favorite returns and we go back to them.



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Created by: louisphillippe

10/12/15 @ 11:29pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Momentarely in this galaxy while the mother ship r
Posts: 1,234


:guitar Sadly the amount of models is infinite while
the amount of customers willing to spend good money is finite... :guitar
:drinkup Only the models with thick skin and working as a second job
or a hobby succeed in this business... :guitar
:angel The more models the less cu$tomer$ to go around... :(

Just my :twocents
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Created by: gayslave4u

10/13/15 @ 1:40am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 619

Well, one thing you can do is stop blocking Florida. Lots of members here .. j/s
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Ted Long
Created by: Ted Long

10/19/15 @ 6:39pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

Well, one thing you can do is stop blocking Florida. Lots of members here .. j/s



The only reason I block FL is because I live here now... I'm worried about someone recognizing me... Do you really think it will make a difference?
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Created by: gofish

10/19/15 @ 7:17pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 1,858




The only reason I block FL is because I live here now... I'm worried about someone recognizing me... Do you really think it will make a difference?


Ted at the end of the day to block or to unblock is more of a case of you being comfortable with it. Not sure if there are really all that more viewers in Florida, but it is something you might consider testing.
If you in anyway think that some fellow students are checking out the site I would keep the block on. While you are really doing nothing wrong there is always that jackass out there who could cause trouble and hey that is the last thing you need.
You basically have to find the time to get online. I am sure many of your fans miss you and then getting back into that top 50 Viewers Choice list.



:winkwink :winkwink :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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Created by: gayslave4u

10/19/15 @ 7:28pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 619




The only reason I block FL is because I live here now... I'm worried about someone recognizing me... Do you really think it will make a difference?


Well, if you are too ashamed to be seen here, then maybe you are in the wrong line of work.
Just my :twocents
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deafTN
Created by: deaftn

10/20/15 @ 11:18am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: out of this world
Posts: 653

Miss you Ted
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Hot_Dad_Bear
Created by: hot_dad_bear

10/21/15 @ 6:04pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
Posts: 3

As you probably know, you are my favorite model, and frankly the only reason I come to Flirt4Free. I spend most of my time on another site. My advice to you, which I've already told you is don't show anything in the public chat, make people pay for that, and since for many they will see something they won't find on the other guys, you have a valuable commodity. Second, don't do anything non-members request, in fact what you should say to them is to sign up and then they can talk to you. Since you like to play, why don't you lower your price? Frankly $6. a minute is a lot of money, and honestly I wouldn't pay that much for anybody else. Do you really care if you go private for 5 minutes or 15 minutes to make the same amount? Finally, I'll tell you what I tell the other guys, you have to do this because you enjoy it, otherwise it gets tedious and frustrating. I don't think you should rely on this for your primary source of income, very few people can. Hugz
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Ted Long
Created by: Ted Long

10/21/15 @ 7:54pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

As you probably know, you are my favorite model, and frankly the only reason I come to Flirt4Free. I spend most of my time on another site. My advice to you, which I've already told you is don't show anything in the public chat, make people pay for that, and since for many they will see something they won't find on the other guys, you have a valuable commodity. Second, don't do anything non-members request, in fact what you should say to them is to sign up and then they can talk to you. Since you like to play, why don't you lower your price? Frankly $6. a minute is a lot of money, and honestly I wouldn't pay that much for anybody else. Do you really care if you go private for 5 minutes or 15 minutes to make the same amount? Finally, I'll tell you what I tell the other guys, you have to do this because you enjoy it, otherwise it gets tedious and frustrating. I don't think you should rely on this for your primary source of income, very few people can. Hugz



Hey there daddy ;) sure do miss you! I do agree with a lot of what you said, as far as the price, after a certain amount of time doing privates at $6 a minute it wont let me go lower than that. However, I do know I can set it so my private is 6 and my multi user is 4, so I will try that option out! I love privates, especially long ones, so I have enough time to cum hehehe (':jerkoff');
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Tyler Bishop
Created by: Tyler Bishop

10/21/15 @ 8:53pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

:) First I would like to say i have been with the company for almost 5 years email me and i can help u possibly get on the right track i have found myseklf in the top 1 for a while and then i stop and come back and stop and come back or let me know when u are working and i will join in as a member and watch and see if we can switch this around and make it more positive for you or maybe take some time to come in my room and watch how i work maybe that will help too and i have a few questions
how many hrs a day do u work
do u take advantage of group & party and fake
do u use mulit user more often than you use standard pvt
Please email me back and i can see what i can do possible even send some of my customers your way.
I beleive we are a team here and are all here for the same reaons $$$
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Ted Long
Created by: Ted Long

10/21/15 @ 11:00pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

:) First I would like to say i have been with the company for almost 5 years email me and i can help u possibly get on the right track i have found myseklf in the top 1 for a while and then i stop and come back and stop and come back or let me know when u are working and i will join in as a member and watch and see if we can switch this around and make it more positive for you or maybe take some time to come in my room and watch how i work maybe that will help too and i have a few questions
how many hrs a day do u work
do u take advantage of group & party and fake
do u use mulit user more often than you use standard pvt
Please email me back and i can see what i can do possible even send some of my customers your way.
I beleive we are a team here and are all here for the same reaons $$$



Thanks Tyler! I would totally love some advice, if you have Twitter send me a follow @Long9Ted and we can chat there ;) I appreciate the support! And I agree we are a team, two thumbs up :)
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Andre Rico
Created by: Andre Rico

10/22/15 @ 1:29pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

:) First I would like to say i have been with the company for almost 5 years email me and i can help u possibly get on the right track i have found myseklf in the top 1 for a while and then i stop and come back and stop and come back or let me know when u are working and i will join in as a member and watch and see if we can switch this around and make it more positive for you or maybe take some time to come in my room and watch how i work maybe that will help too and i have a few questions
how many hrs a day do u work
do u take advantage of group & party and fake
do u use mulit user more often than you use standard pvt
Please email me back and i can see what i can do possible even send some of my customers your way.
I beleive we are a team here and are all here for the same reaons $$$




I think well what you say lol.
good point, we are all here coworkers, although we are not in the same studies or working from home, I ask please that you review my living room and you indicate that'm failing, I'm also going through the same situation as my partner and really did not want to leave this job is my second home.
ATT: Andre Rico
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