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Male Performer Chat: Aphrodite Boys is at it again..... pt 2?
For some reason the other thread has now been locked to new replies, without any statement from VSMedia, Flirt4Free, or ABS... No acknowledging there is a problem, or that there would atleast be an investigation into the claims, just a locked thread?
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Censorship much, or sweeping under the carpet? Quote
We are not sure what you are referring to please send your complaint to CustomerService@flirt4free.com
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We are not sure what you are referring to please send your complaint to CustomerService@flirt4free.com
When I press the Add Reply button on the thread Aphrodite Boys is at it again, I receive the following error:
An Error Occurred! This thread is locked, no more replies can be made.
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When I press the Add Reply button on the thread Aphrodite Boys is at it again, I receive the following error:
An Error Occurred! This thread is locked, no more replies can be made.
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Goes to show that the forums belong to the site and admin can do anything it wants to with them.
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We are not sure what you are referring to please send your complaint to CustomerService@flirt4free.com
All you have to do is go to the original thread, "Aphrodite Boys is at it again" (which I started) and try to reply and you will see this response. You know perfectly well what he's referring to. I have never seen that on one of these forum threads (and I hit "reply" on several other forum threads to make sure it wasn't just a system error). In the original thread, I was pointing out that the models from Aphrodite Boys have not been paid by the studio for months. One would think that the hard-working models being stiffed by their studio would be a matter of concern to VS Media, and something they would want to take steps to deal with. Apparently not. That's disheartening, and will make many people, including me, question whether they want to keep tossing money at a site with so little regard for its workers.
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All you have to do is go to the original thread, "Aphrodite Boys is at it again" (which I started) and try to reply and you will see this response. You know perfectly well what he's referring to. I have never seen that on one of these forum threads (and I hit "reply" on several other forum threads to make sure it wasn't just a system error). In the original thread, I was pointing out that the models from Aphrodite Boys have not been paid by the studio for months. One would think that the hard-working models being stiffed by their studio would be a matter of concern to VS Media, and something they would want to take steps to deal with. Apparently not. That's disheartening, and will make many people, including me, question whether they want to keep tossing money at a site with so little regard for its workers.
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patrick-dallas
6/4/21 @ 1:52am
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I asked about this in the VIP section as well. Here is the response from Flirt:
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Thank you for taking the time to contact us via the forums. We can confirm we have not received any complaints about this situation from any ABS models. If any model would like to contact us directly regarding this, please contact model support management via email. CC Quote
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Thank you for taking the time to contact us via the forums. We can confirm we have not received any complaints about this situation from any ABS models. If any model would like to contact us directly regarding this, please contact model support management via email. CC Quote
I asked about this in the VIP section as well. Here is the response from Flirt:
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Posted: 6/2, 1:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00 | Post #7Back to TopReport AbuseDelete Post
Thank you for taking the time to contact us via the forums. We can confirm we have not received any complaints about this situation from any ABS models. If any model would like to contact us directly regarding this, please contact model support management via email. CC
Thanks for following up on this, Patrick. I'd say it's one of two possibilities: 1) Flirt is not...um...telling us the whole story about this, or (more likely) 2) the models have been threatened with firing if they go to Flirt. I'll try to find out.
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Posted: 6/2, 1:39am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00 | Post #7Back to TopReport AbuseDelete Post
Thank you for taking the time to contact us via the forums. We can confirm we have not received any complaints about this situation from any ABS models. If any model would like to contact us directly regarding this, please contact model support management via email. CC
Thanks for following up on this, Patrick. I'd say it's one of two possibilities: 1) Flirt is not...um...telling us the whole story about this, or (more likely) 2) the models have been threatened with firing if they go to Flirt. I'll try to find out.
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Well, maybe F4F not at liberty to discuss issues; why not contact ABS and/or Anna B herself.
Rights of non disclosure concerning Models for their protection and during whichever situations is part of any site or of this type/industry especially for the ladies.
From personal experience, if model didn't tell you and no response from model via email, then accept non disclosure.
Also, and not advocating, there are several Models also involved with ABS still working on F4F, they have chosen not to disclose or discuss?! Quote
Rights of non disclosure concerning Models for their protection and during whichever situations is part of any site or of this type/industry especially for the ladies.
From personal experience, if model didn't tell you and no response from model via email, then accept non disclosure.
Also, and not advocating, there are several Models also involved with ABS still working on F4F, they have chosen not to disclose or discuss?! Quote
Well, maybe F4F not at liberty to discuss issues; why not contact ABS and/or Anna B herself.
Rights of non disclosure concerning Models for their protection and during whichever situations is part of any site or of this type/industry especially for the ladies.
From personal experience, if model didn't tell you and no response from model via email, then accept non disclosure.
Also, and not advocating, there are several Models also involved with ABS still working on F4F, they have chosen not to disclose or discuss?!
This behavior at APB has been going on for years; it's their standard business model. In effect it's a pyramid scheme where the bottom of the pyramid keeps getting refreshed by new naive models to pay the studio, owners, and "top" models. Early on those models moved studios when they figured out the scam, but now the studio makes them all sign multi-year exclusivity contracts so they can block the transfers. These exclusivity contracts aren't like porn contracts which include incentives; they are non-compete clauses simply to block them from moving. That is why all recent departures from APB end up only working on other sites. The first bunch of models that founded and then left APB managed to get their accounts back, and are on Flirt. I am sure they will be happy to tell you all about Anna and APB. I've heard enough for a lifetime.
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Rights of non disclosure concerning Models for their protection and during whichever situations is part of any site or of this type/industry especially for the ladies.
From personal experience, if model didn't tell you and no response from model via email, then accept non disclosure.
Also, and not advocating, there are several Models also involved with ABS still working on F4F, they have chosen not to disclose or discuss?!
This behavior at APB has been going on for years; it's their standard business model. In effect it's a pyramid scheme where the bottom of the pyramid keeps getting refreshed by new naive models to pay the studio, owners, and "top" models. Early on those models moved studios when they figured out the scam, but now the studio makes them all sign multi-year exclusivity contracts so they can block the transfers. These exclusivity contracts aren't like porn contracts which include incentives; they are non-compete clauses simply to block them from moving. That is why all recent departures from APB end up only working on other sites. The first bunch of models that founded and then left APB managed to get their accounts back, and are on Flirt. I am sure they will be happy to tell you all about Anna and APB. I've heard enough for a lifetime.
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I got this email today from a (former) ABS studio model today...
Hello!
L here, if you remember me. After a long period of not having access to the account, I am back! I obtained access to the account from the site, and from now on I no longer collaborate with the studio. I managed to get access to the account because I haven't paid by the studio for a long time, more precisely since June last year and there have been many promises from them that it will be solved, but nothing.
I’m happy to be back and ready for new adventures and for a new start.
If you still have the pleasure to visit me and to talk with me I will be very happy to spend time with you again!
I will be online again starting at midnight, June 11th.
I’m looking forward to spend time with again! Xoxo Quote
Hello!
L here, if you remember me. After a long period of not having access to the account, I am back! I obtained access to the account from the site, and from now on I no longer collaborate with the studio. I managed to get access to the account because I haven't paid by the studio for a long time, more precisely since June last year and there have been many promises from them that it will be solved, but nothing.
I’m happy to be back and ready for new adventures and for a new start.
If you still have the pleasure to visit me and to talk with me I will be very happy to spend time with you again!
I will be online again starting at midnight, June 11th.
I’m looking forward to spend time with again! Xoxo Quote
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gofish
6/12/21 @ 10:28pm
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Sadly I doubt the site will take any action on this unless they have a model presently at that studio filing a complaint. There is one model with this studio who by just being in his room you can clearly see there is a problem. I am not sure what hold that studio has on him, but think he could be damaged in a mental way. He start off on the site being a bit shy but sort of happy friendly, but now never seems to talk and has a sad look on his face. Not sure what can be done, but hope something soon.
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I got this email today from a (former) ABS studio model today...
Hello!
L here, if you remember me. After a long period of not having access to the account, I am back! I obtained access to the account from the site, and from now on I no longer collaborate with the studio. I managed to get access to the account because I haven't paid by the studio for a long time, more precisely since June last year and there have been many promises from them that it will be solved, but nothing.
I’m happy to be back and ready for new adventures and for a new start.
If you still have the pleasure to visit me and to talk with me I will be very happy to spend time with you again!
I will be online again starting at midnight, June 11th.
I’m looking forward to spend time with again! Xoxo
Thanks for sharing this. More of their ex-models need to speak up. I can understand why current ones are afraid to say anything.
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Hello!
L here, if you remember me. After a long period of not having access to the account, I am back! I obtained access to the account from the site, and from now on I no longer collaborate with the studio. I managed to get access to the account because I haven't paid by the studio for a long time, more precisely since June last year and there have been many promises from them that it will be solved, but nothing.
I’m happy to be back and ready for new adventures and for a new start.
If you still have the pleasure to visit me and to talk with me I will be very happy to spend time with you again!
I will be online again starting at midnight, June 11th.
I’m looking forward to spend time with again! Xoxo
Thanks for sharing this. More of their ex-models need to speak up. I can understand why current ones are afraid to say anything.
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Thanks for sharing this. More of their ex-models need to speak up. I can understand why current ones are afraid to say anything.
Given the news on ABS, has Flirt4Free got any comment to make on the models treatment in this whole saga?
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Given the news on ABS, has Flirt4Free got any comment to make on the models treatment in this whole saga?
Apparently not. It's getting more and more difficult to support a company that takes a huge percentage from its workers and gives them no support.
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Everything is “thanks and we will refer the matter on to the appropriate department or person “ nothing ever changes.
I feel upside down about flirt like my picture. Lol Quote
I feel upside down about flirt like my picture. Lol Quote
All you have to do is go to the original thread, "Aphrodite Boys is at it again" (which I started) and try to reply and you will see this response. You know perfectly well what he's referring to. I have never seen that on one of these forum threads (and I hit "reply" on several other forum threads to make sure it wasn't just a system error). In the original thread, I was pointing out that the models from Aphrodite Boys have not been paid by the studio for months. One would think that the hard-working models being stiffed by their studio would be a matter of concern to VS Media, and something they would want to take steps to deal with. Apparently not. That's disheartening, and will make many people, including me, question whether they want to keep tossing money at a site with so little regard for its workers.
Holy shit! I have not seen that thread as yet (heading over there after this) but I'm honestly not surprised that they censored it. There was a whole other thread here from a while ago about model behavior that stirred a bit of a controversy in August: it has completely vanished from the site altogether. If this is really happening, I wonder if VS Media has long known about these studios' refusal to pay their models and is simply turning a blind eye to it. Quote
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gofish
10/8/21 @ 1:43pm
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Holy shit! I have not seen that thread as yet (heading over there after this) but I'm honestly not surprised that they censored it. There was a whole other thread here from a while ago about model behavior that stirred a bit of a controversy in August: it has completely vanished from the site altogether. If this is really happening, I wonder if VS Media has long known about these studios' refusal to pay their models and is simply turning a blind eye to it.
Mike sort of think that most members who have been on the site for a long time have discovered the true nature of Aphrodite Boys. How they manage to get away with the stuff they do is mind boggling and if what they say about the contracts they have with them models is true it is something that the Flirt contract needs to overwrite. One particular model that I know of is still with them even though it would be clear he would be better off if not the case. Think many might think that Aphrodite Boys only runs through flirt but this is not the case.
It would be nice if flirt could take some action, but unless some model actually takes action perhaps their hands are tied. Think the best way to express your feeling to Aphrodite Boys is do not take their models private or tip them even though you feel sorry for that model. Think it is call short term pain for long term gain.
In any case it is always the models who will get hurt however this situation is ever handled or if it ever will be.
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Mike sort of think that most members who have been on the site for a long time have discovered the true nature of Aphrodite Boys. How they manage to get away with the stuff they do is mind boggling and if what they say about the contracts they have with them models is true it is something that the Flirt contract needs to overwrite. One particular model that I know of is still with them even though it would be clear he would be better off if not the case. Think many might think that Aphrodite Boys only runs through flirt but this is not the case.
It would be nice if flirt could take some action, but unless some model actually takes action perhaps their hands are tied. Think the best way to express your feeling to Aphrodite Boys is do not take their models private or tip them even though you feel sorry for that model. Think it is call short term pain for long term gain.
In any case it is always the models who will get hurt however this situation is ever handled or if it ever will be.
Apparently Aphrodite Boys has closed. The studio was bought by another studio. Good riddance. Hopefully the new studio will make good on ABS' debt, and Flirt will take steps to insure that no studio owned by the ABS people (which includes their precious Stefano, who's right at the heart of this) will ever be allowed on this site again.
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Apparently Aphrodite Boys has closed. The studio was bought by another studio. Good riddance. Hopefully the new studio will make good on ABS' debt, and Flirt will take steps to insure that no studio owned by the ABS people (which includes their precious Stefano, who's right at the heart of this) will ever be allowed on this site again.
Unfortunately Flirt4Free/VSMedia look to have turned a blind eye to this ABS situation, suggesting anything that will make them a profit can receive this treatment (unless they are not telling us something?). Whoever works for VSMedia, I'd really consider how it reflects on your personal ethics/morals by choosing to work for a company that directly supports businesses that exploit human beings for their own gains. Without Flirt, ABS wouldn't have existed. With stronger governance from VSMedia, ABS's alleged practices wouldn't have happened.
Lack of communication to customers should really be unacceptable in 2021 in a situation where people have been adversely affected. Ignorance isn't an excuse anymore, considering in the context of VSMedia own company culture statement "Mutual respect and personal accountability are other key company values.". On one of the walls in their corporate office, they have a word map with one of their big words being "Trustworthy"... Show some respect for your customers, show some respect for the models, and most of all, show some respect & accountability for yourselves, because without that respect you damage your whole business model through loss of "trustworthiness".
As I post this, I look at: "Remember, please be respectful in your posts and replies. Everyone comes here for entertainment, not to fight. Distasteful and/or aggressive posting could result in the removal of your posting privileges." Maybe change the "Everyone comes here for entertainment" line. Usually we all come here for entertainment, but as a person I choose not to turn a blind eye to bad practice, and prefer to call it out so people can be held accountable and be better for next time.
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Unfortunately Flirt4Free/VSMedia look to have turned a blind eye to this ABS situation, unless they are not telling us something?
What makes you think they need to tell you anything about their business with one of their studios or the models that work for them?. You are a member, not a business partner, not a stock holder, not a member of their board. Quote
