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Created by: leva

5/11/07 @ 3:39pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Anyone else had this happen??
After spending almost $100 for a private I get really pissed off when a model fakes the cum shot, and even more so when they deny it. With faster and faster connections it is REALLY EASY to see the difference between the real thing and the fake out and I have a very fast connection.
Cum does not fall from above, the most common mode of faking us out... hold the squeeze bottle/tube of "cum" above and out of the cam frame and at the "moment of truth" squeeze it and hope it falls in an appropriate area and that the actual fall is missed by the client because of frame speed/refresh rate etc. Each and every shot can be a "massive" load, and therein should lie your first clue to being duped. It really "blows the moment" so to speak and at these prices I don't expect cheap fakes. In some studios, a second "helper" is even employed to do the squirt. Wonder what their "cut" is?
I guess faking it "cums" with the territory but if they aren't up to the task, they should be on the $1.99 sites. :mad

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Created by: ourjeffie

5/11/07 @ 10:49pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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leva, I think this happens only rarely. I believe that SOME models fake cumshots SOMETIMES

Of course I don't condone it, and it's difficult to understand why any models do it ... many of them are watching porn all shift and they want to cum as much as, if not more than, we do

I believe most models, if they are not up to cumming for any reason, make it known before someone takes them pvt expectng them to cum. This is why it's always good to "negotiate" before going pvt

You can always make it known beforehand, or during the pvt, that you want the model to zoom in on the cumshot to ensure authenticity

If you are deceived by a model, you don't take him pvt again, right? If you feel you feel you have been deceived, you should let the model know. Of course he will deny it, but he will soon get the message. Smart models learn that they need to have clients taking them pvt on a regular basis, shift after shift, and that this won't happen if they are dishonest

This is off topic, I know, but I can't resist ...
Q. Why do women fake orgasm?
A. Because men fake foreplay!

:orglaugh

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Created by: rox

5/12/07 @ 4:10am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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yes it happens, one model in particular has been doing it for sometime.......no I dont pvt him.............even in his videos, you can see him quite clearly spitting into his hand and then presenting it to camera as cum!!. the comments I wrote about it never appeared in the comments about video,suprise suprise.!!!!! but most models do deliver.............. :thumbsup

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Created by: longdukdong

5/12/07 @ 10:28pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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I'm sure it happens somethines. Event he best of us can't come 10+ times in a shift. If a model is really busy, I can sort of see how it would be a necessity.
However; i will say that honesty is the best policy, and i'f i'm paying $6 a minute for fantasy, i sure better not be able to tell it's all fake.

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Created by: musclestud

5/12/07 @ 11:31pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I really wish I understood why people so much about seeing a cum shot. To me it is so uninteresting. But - whatever floats your boat I guess.

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Created by: brandon2807

5/13/07 @ 5:06am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I've got a very interesting reply to this post . . . but I haven't got enough time to write it up now.

But for the moment . . . What floats your boat MuscleStud baby?

:winkwink

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Created by: louisphillippe

5/13/07 @ 3:29pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Of course it does happen.No spit from above or helper needed.
Fill up a 1"x1 1/2" zip lock bag with hand cream mixed with water leaving one side barely open.While using your left hand been zoomed with the right hand reach for the tiny bag and put behind inside side of index middle and annular fingers.Change hands now with the right and squeeze packet.You just came a nice load all over your head and fingers.Also works with a tiny slit in the corner of the palastic bag.Change hands again and zip lock bag dessapears behind your back.
This method is very difficult or or almost impossible by uncut models,foreskin becames a barrier between the head and cream.
Mostly used by deshonest CUT models .(VERY FEW HERE)
It only takes a little practice and a close zoom.Practice,practice practice.Method is used in porno movies very often normally the cheapper ones with B or C actors.
Most of them also use delay tactics.You buy 15 minutes and at the end they need 5 more minutes and then 2 more and so on until you end up with 35 minutes of a negociated 15 minutes show.
I stick to 3 very honest reliable frendlier and truthful models I visit very often for a long time.
No,I don't mean you should PATRONIZE only uncut models nor all of them are thieves and robbers,but we do have 5 or 6 bad apples.
Of course I never visit the bad ones again and I let them know the reason in my review and in the open room.
If real cum is not neccessary to please you,please ignore this posting,it is of no interest nor help to you.
I REPEAT: IN F4F ONLY 5 OR 6 MODELS DO IT TO MY KNOWLEDGE.ALL OF THEM ARE HONEST AND (PARDON THE PUN) HARD WORKING AND UNDERPAID GUYS. : :thumbsup

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Created by: musclestud

5/13/07 @ 5:09pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I'm a top, so I'm into the ass. Watching guys stroke their cocks doesn't excite me, but playing with their asses does it big time.

I don't think the fake cum shots are as big a deal as the model who used to use a fake cock - that was hilarious (and so many guys fell for it!). He went away for a while, then came back but used his real cock.

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Created by: brandon2807

5/15/07 @ 3:53pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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. . . .(not) as big a deal as the model who used to use a fake cock - that was hilarious (and so many guys fell for it!). He went away for a while, then came back but used his real cock.

DON'T leave my hangin here Muscle!

Name Names.

Tell me who he is . . . . I've got to see him work that fake cock!

:winkwink

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Created by: loosebooty

5/24/07 @ 9:10pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00

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YES, THERE ARE SOME MODELS THAT FAKE THE CUM SHOT. i HAVE HAD IT HAPPEN TO ME, I REQUESTED BEFORE THE PVT , THAT I WANTED CLOSE UP (ZOOM IN) OF THE HEAD SO I COULD SEE THE CUM SPURTING OUT ; AND EACH TIME, WITH EACH MODEL THE CAMERA SLIPPED AND THEIR CHEST WAS FILLED WITH THIS SO CALLED BIG LOAD! NOT FALLING FOR IT!... I CALLED CUSTOMER SUPPORT AND REPORTED THEM! MY TIME WAS REIMBURSED AND DEDUCTED FROM MODEL ! THE CUM SHOT IS THE UTOPIA OF THE WHOLE PVT.. WHEN YOU TAKE THAT AWAY FROM ME,,, YOU'VE ROBBED ME, WITHOUT A GUN!.. FOR 6.00 PER MINUTE IF I WANT YOU TO BARK, RUB YOUR STOMACH AND SHOOT A BIG LOAD,, THAT'S WHAT I SHOULD GET... AFTER ALL, THEY WANT THEIR PAY AND SOME EVEN ASK FOR TIPS! BUT IF THEY HAVE TO ASK,,, THEY DON'T DESERVE IT!

OVERALL, MY FAVORITE MODELS ARE JUST THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT I WILL GET FROM THEM IN PVT AND THEY KNOW WHAT I WANT.... AND AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ARE ALL HAPPY, ANXIOUSLY AWAITING THE NEXT PVT!

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Created by: louisphillippe

5/27/07 @ 1:29am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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LOOSEBOOTY: My feelings exactly.My dollars are not FAKE nor is the price of my V.I.P.
membership.
No one is going to tell me what to aspect or want while I contract a service in advance for a certain time
and performance.
Certain mutual rules of conduct are aspected from all of us:civility ,manners, veracity ,honesty,respect and unlimited fun an IMAGINARY romance and SEX.
But I'm sure someone is going to CORRECT me and bust my BUBBLE!!!!! :mad

SOME PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE RIGHT THEY ARE RIGHT,AND WHEN THEY ARE WRONG....THEY ARE STILL RIGHT!!!! :evil

TAKE CARE AND WE SHARE THE SAME BOAT.
BEST OF LUCK! :drinkup

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Created by: brandon2807

5/27/07 @ 6:35am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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You guyz are totally correct of course. If you agree with a model that he will cum "for real" then that is what you should get.

I have two stories to tell you. The first is about a guy I privated a couple of years back . . . . and I don't know why I did take him private, because he didn't really excite me . . . but anyway I did. He told me he would cum and I told him fine I will give you 20 minutes. ( I think I took him private because I had hours of time on the clock and you get a bit flippant and start privating at the drop of a hat).

Of course, he could see the time too when we entered private . . .

Well he jerked . . . and jerked . . . and jerked . . . (and I *hate* long jerking sessions) and at the 22 minutes (after I had downed my 3rd cup of coffee) I said to him, "Are you close?"

I knew damn well he was no closer than when we started the private . . . but I gave him another 5 minutes, all along encouraging him to "PEAK BABY" . . . LOL

After near on 30 minutes I said to him, "Baby . . I can't hang on much longer . . "

And all of a sudden the camera zoomed in on his shoulders and then zoomed out and FUCK . . . he had "climaxed" miraculously.

Of course I knew I had been CONNED . . and I didn't like it. You sort of get this empty feeling, of not being fully satisfied.

I just put it down to experience, and wondered why the fuck I *ever* took him private in the first place . . as I said, it was my foolish choice!

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Created by: brandon2807

5/27/07 @ 7:15am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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The other example I want to tell you about is the complete opposite.

:winkwink

I had been privating this guy for some time. He was one of the Hottest Guys I have ever met in my life. Fantaztic muscles, the most perfectly shaped body and handsome as. He had won weight lifting championships, and was gorgeous.

I found him almost irresistible, particulary if he dressed up for me and did strip shows, or dressed in Spanish Lace and danced . . or did the doggie pos . . . .whatever he did, just flicked my switch.

Just the Hottest Russian Stud I have ever met.

Now Lust usually only lasts about 2 or 3 months max for me, but I must have spent 6 months . . probably more . . exploring this guy.

Anyway I had a big day at the track (winning always makes me horny) and was on the way home and he had told me he was on . . . so I sent him a message to say, �Wait for me . . I am on my way home . . I want to cum with you.�

Well when I got home and got online, there he was waiting for me the Gorgeous Hunk. He said he would give me a Hot Leather Show and then we could both cum together.

So off into private we went. I knew he had worked a double shift, 12 hours on line in the last 18 hours . . and he looked very tired. I told him you look so tired baby and that this time, it would be OK for me if he just FAKED CUMMING for me and I would imagine it was the real thing.

So he started his show and at about the usual time after 20 odd minutes of show, he assumed the CUM POSITION. Lol.

And then he blew his load firstly all over his abs - my favorite position . . . But this time he kept jerking . . . and he kept cuming . . . it was just OOZING CUM . . . .

Soon his entire body was just a covered in HIS SWEET JIZZ!

Then he gave me his ass, spread his legs and his amazing cute hole . . . . and all the while, the CUM kept flowing, all down his ass cheeks, dripping down his crack and into that hole.

It was just amazing. To have someone CUM ENDLESSLY for me for the best part of 10 minutes gave me was "a dream come true" lol

AND now . . . some 18 months later . . . I still remember everything about that private and every move he made . . . it *was* the Best Private I have *EVER* had!

So that is the one time when the FAKE was more of a thrill than the real thing!

:jerkoff

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Created by: stewier

5/27/07 @ 9:02am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Except for the spanish lace, which I may have missed, your second hot hot tale could have about super hot long gone SPB model Goodwin
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Created by: brandon2807

5/27/07 @ 6:29pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I found him almost irresistible, particulary if he dressed up for me and did strip shows, or dressed in Spanish Lace and danced . . or did the doggie pos . . . .whatever he did, just flicked my switch.
Just the Hottest Russian Stud I have ever met.

Well StewieR . . . you are in the right era. My Gorgeous Russain Hunk worked at the same time and in the same studio as Goodwin . . . but it was not Goodwin . . but began with the same letter.

He was a fiery Russian, and often was quite volatile in the open room . . . like a caged lion sometimes in those small cubicles . . . . but with me he was just like a little pussycat . . . so tame and sweet.

And even though his English was very limited . . . as was my Russian . . . we understood eachother just perfectly . . . and romanced our time away in and out of privates . . . even after he departed from Flirt (nudge nudge wink wink :winkwink

)

I will tell you his name in my next post . . . if you haven't already guessed. But he is one of only four people in my life, that I have ever *REALLY* loved

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Created by: brandon2807

5/27/07 @ 6:38pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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ooops . . I said something in my last post that is now against the F4F rules . . . it may have been back in those days but wasn't enforced . . . . but these rules are today.

So . . just in case he may want to make a return to F4F . . I *cannot* reveal his name in *open* chat for obvious reasons.

:angel

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Created by: louisphillippe

5/28/07 @ 2:16am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I THINK I ALSO KNOW THE TWO GUYS!!!! :orglaugh

I FELT THE EXACT SAME WAY!!...THEY COULDN'T DO ENOUGH TO PLEASE YOU!
I never saw the lace part...but I remember the black leather jacket and the possing!!!
Oh,wow!!! I wish we had 4 or 5 like him now....He was like a secret boyfriend you anxiously waited
to see the next time around...sexy,sweet,temperamental with strangers and a devilish sexy smile....
The otherone was a bit more conservative and quieter...serious but with stunning eyes that could melt you in
your chair or cut you like a dagger,...his every move was sensual and sexual at the same time and he
would take over the privaye and drive you to write bad checks ,hit you whip you and call you Hellen!!! LOLOLOL.....Anything for his glorious cum shots!!! And they were real cum too!!!
Well...those times are gone...Now it's slam...bang ...thank you man!!!!
MMMMmmmmm....I think I hear a song in the distance...getting closer...Who could that be???? :orglaugh

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Created by: brandon2807

5/28/07 @ 3:58am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I THINK I ALSO KNOW THE TWO GUYS!!!! :orglaugh

I FELT THE EXACT SAME WAY!!...THEY COULDN'T DO ENOUGH TO PLEASE YOU!

I never saw the lace part...but I remember the black leather jacket and the possing!!!

Oh,wow!!! I wish we had 4 or 5 like him now....He was like a secret boyfriend you anxiously waited
to see the next time around...sexy,sweet,temperamental with strangers and a devilish sexy smile....

The otherone was a bit more conservative and quieter...serious but with stunning eyes that could melt you in
your chair or cut you like a dagger,...his every move was sensual and sexual at the same time and he
would take over the privaye and drive you to write bad checks ,hit you whip you and call you Hellen!!!

LOLOLOL.....Anything for his glorious cum shots!!! And they were real cum too!!!

Well...those times are gone...Now it's slam...bang ...thank you man!!!!
MMMMmmmmm....I think I hear a song in the distance...getting closer...Who could that be???? :orglaugh

Yes louisphillipe . . . you know THE one! . . . . . . . and alas, as you say, " . . . those times are gone..."

Just to show you how captivated I was with this Gorgeous Hunk, there was one evening that I had planned to be home to go private with him after dinner.

I was in Melbourne for the summer, and got a phone call from a guy I hadn't seen since I was last in Melbourne some 6 months previous.

We used to always get together and shot some pool . . . and the winner always got the chance to go top. Now I shoot pool pretty good . . but this boy amazingly would beat me almost every time. I just loved riding his cock.

Well anyway, he rang and asked if he could come around for dinner . . . . . . . and believe it or not . . . but I put him off until the following night so I could have cyber sex with my hot Russian Stud.

LUST does amazing things to me . . .

. . . I used to back play this song SPANISH LACE by Gene McDaniels in private . . music pushed me to the limit

:guitar

He was standing there so beyond compare in Spanish Lace.

My heart touched the sky, captivated by her angel face.

Dancing neath the moon, I soon discovered the new world that lovers always find.

When I saw him there so beyond compare in Spanish Lace.

We danced away the night until the morning light said time to go

I knew we�d have to part, such sadness filled my heart, I loved him so.

And now that love has flown . . alone . . . I think of the heartache that I will have to face

Dreaming of that night, and stars that shone so bright . . . and Spanish Lace.

:guitar

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Created by: leva

6/7/07 @ 10:05am (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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Did you check out the Perikles video today? He & Giomm are masters at it. Today it's the cream in the other hand trick....act like your shielding yourself with the hand from the cum thats about to fly while releasing the cream. Another 5 star fake! And almost everytime I add a comment it mysteriously never gets posted!
Grrrrrrrr :jerkoff

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Created by: rox

6/7/07 @ 1:09pm (EST) |UTC - 5:00
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I add a comment it mysteriously never gets posted!

Unusually Leva if you check the video,you will see that your fake comment has been posted!

but I have to agree with you, why post these videos when it can be clearly seen that both of them fake the cum shot, he even drops the cream onto his leg and then moves it onto his stomach...............LMAO :orglaugh

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