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I work a lot, I get most weekends off. I enjoy being with some models, but it seems that a lot of the really cute college age and belami guys I follow are all off on the weekends. I may see them for a moment during the week, but they will say they have their "dogs", their grandmother's, their family, some excuse to be gone all weekend....Maybe even a shoot. Over the times that I have had my off and on VIP membership there are less and less of those smooth, naturally athletic types, giving way to older, muscle worship, inked up guys. Maybe I need a different venue, maybe just me. Maybe it's just this group of guys. It's all cool to like those types but I honestly don't enjoy my time here and I stay a couple of minutes sometimes and just log off. Between the flexing and the pink tail, I just get bored now.
Don't get me wrong, there are guys for everyone and maybe I've run my course here. I have really put in my time in private shows, tipping, helping models win contests, purchase of videos, etc.
But there is just not much there for guys with my taste anymore. Quote
Don't get me wrong, there are guys for everyone and maybe I've run my course here. I have really put in my time in private shows, tipping, helping models win contests, purchase of videos, etc.
But there is just not much there for guys with my taste anymore. Quote
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olivierarnot
7/24/21 @ 12:18am
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The site, the models in the last 6 years, all different. Even on belami, some inked up and pumped up. I first started visiting another site, first rarely, now I am spending most of my time there. Comme vous, Drake, I am bored often here. The contests, come même (the same), the pink lovense or ohmi hanging there. No more conversation. The VIP VOD's are not the best models as the best models have opted not to share. drinkup
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It's a shame that users don't find their guy's type cause f4f has thousands of hot guys! I think it also depends at the time when you come on weekends... have tried to check in a different schedule? I bet there are lot of nice guys who are willing to have a nice time with users (besides the flexing and the pink tail) hopefully you will have some luck!
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gofish
8/8/21 @ 2:45pm
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One might suggest if a member discovers an interesting group of models on the site post something on the forum and include a link to their chatroom. It might be the solution that could help both members and models as well 
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One might suggest if a member discovers an interesting group of models on the site post something on the forum and include a link to their chatroom. It might be the solution that could help both members and models as well
I agree fish! sometimes it takes little scrolling and patience, maybe even a little "swimming around" to find some hidden artifacts that you never knew existed haha Quote
I agree fish! sometimes it takes little scrolling and patience, maybe even a little "swimming around" to find some hidden artifacts that you never knew existed haha Quote
I'll say this as a longtime member and a daily visitor of F4F, in a very constructive way that even after daily scrolling and visiting numerous rooms. The models have changed, the allure of the flirt is all but gone, the object now more often than not is to buzz the pink tail, work the credits and hit that party goal.
The scenery has changed, floridly inked bodies now rule the roost, muscle gods dominate and it's more acceptable to be unkempt and not clean shaven (face). All not very enticing.
The free VIP VOD's are just...not really the guys that carry the site except for maybe one or two every other day.
The Russian studios right now seem to get it right with the new group of performers and Anthoni Thompson from South America is probably one of the best in looks, body, show and chat.
But Bel Ami lately has some that are just not really made for chatting or are too old for chatting. WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I used to frequent 2 or 3 guys a day at Bel Ami.
Some days the guys site just has a not so attractive atmosphere and I just shut it down. Like a lawyer friend of mine told me once, I am going to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.
But I'm just not feeling it and I don't feel like spending when I don't feel it. Quote
The scenery has changed, floridly inked bodies now rule the roost, muscle gods dominate and it's more acceptable to be unkempt and not clean shaven (face). All not very enticing.
The free VIP VOD's are just...not really the guys that carry the site except for maybe one or two every other day.
The Russian studios right now seem to get it right with the new group of performers and Anthoni Thompson from South America is probably one of the best in looks, body, show and chat.
But Bel Ami lately has some that are just not really made for chatting or are too old for chatting. WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I used to frequent 2 or 3 guys a day at Bel Ami.
Some days the guys site just has a not so attractive atmosphere and I just shut it down. Like a lawyer friend of mine told me once, I am going to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.
But I'm just not feeling it and I don't feel like spending when I don't feel it. Quote
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gofish
8/9/21 @ 1:56pm
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I'll say this as a longtime member and a daily visitor of F4F, in a very constructive way that even after daily scrolling and visiting numerous rooms. The models have changed, the allure of the flirt is all but gone, the object now more often than not is to buzz the pink tail, work the credits and hit that party goal.
The scenery has changed, floridly inked bodies now rule the roost, muscle gods dominate and it's more acceptable to be unkempt and not clean shaven (face). All not very enticing.
The free VIP VOD's are just...not really the guys that carry the site except for maybe one or two every other day.
The Russian studios right now seem to get it right with the new group of performers and Anthoni Thompson from South America is probably one of the best in looks, body, show and chat.
But Bel Ami lately has some that are just not really made for chatting or are too old for chatting. WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I used to frequent 2 or 3 guys a day at Bel Ami.
Some days the guys site just has a not so attractive atmosphere and I just shut it down. Like a lawyer friend of mine told me once, I am going to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.
But I'm just not feeling it and I don't feel like spending when I don't feel it.
ColinTexas I think you really homed into the problems on the site and yes the tease factor seems long gone and now has been replaced by the pink tail. Have to say there are a rare few performers on the site still worth visiting who seem to enjoy just having members in the room. Hopefully in your flirt travels you will find them. Might suggest if you know of some post the link to their chatroom so other members can check them out.
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The scenery has changed, floridly inked bodies now rule the roost, muscle gods dominate and it's more acceptable to be unkempt and not clean shaven (face). All not very enticing.
The free VIP VOD's are just...not really the guys that carry the site except for maybe one or two every other day.
The Russian studios right now seem to get it right with the new group of performers and Anthoni Thompson from South America is probably one of the best in looks, body, show and chat.
But Bel Ami lately has some that are just not really made for chatting or are too old for chatting. WHAT HAPPENED THERE? I used to frequent 2 or 3 guys a day at Bel Ami.
Some days the guys site just has a not so attractive atmosphere and I just shut it down. Like a lawyer friend of mine told me once, I am going to tell you what you need to hear, not what you want to hear.
But I'm just not feeling it and I don't feel like spending when I don't feel it.
ColinTexas I think you really homed into the problems on the site and yes the tease factor seems long gone and now has been replaced by the pink tail. Have to say there are a rare few performers on the site still worth visiting who seem to enjoy just having members in the room. Hopefully in your flirt travels you will find them. Might suggest if you know of some post the link to their chatroom so other members can check them out.
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I work a lot, I get most weekends off. I enjoy being with some models, but it seems that a lot of the really cute college age and belami guys I follow are all off on the weekends. I may see them for a moment during the week, but they will say they have their "dogs", their grandmother's, their family, some excuse to be gone all weekend....Maybe even a shoot.
So basically, you have weekends off from work but you don't think models deserve the same. To you, spending time with one's family or one's grandmother is just an "excuse" they have no right to be making, and they should tell their families to go to hell so they can be at your beck and call. Can you say "entitled"?
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So basically, you have weekends off from work but you don't think models deserve the same. To you, spending time with one's family or one's grandmother is just an "excuse" they have no right to be making, and they should tell their families to go to hell so they can be at your beck and call. Can you say "entitled"?
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So basically, you have weekends off from work but you don't think models deserve the same. To you, spending time with one's family or one's grandmother is just an "excuse" they have no right to be making, and they should tell their families to go to hell so they can be at your beck and call. Can you say "entitled"?
I don't believe they are with family or dog either globa, I've seen them on social media. They are partying with the money they earn here, or for the porn actors, on porn shoots. Do they have a right to do so? Yes. Do they have a right to string along members and leave them hanging as if the members are the center of their lives so they can get every last cent out of them? No.
Dogs, grandmothers. I've heard the same story numerous times. When I was new on this site one guy told me the same thing, his grandmother this and his grandmother that. I was his top fan. Did his sweet talk and please wait for me honey after the weekend talk.(so I would spend more private show money with him). Then I saw him on another prominent porn star's Instagram eating lavishly in Capetown, seeing the sites, of course he was probably having sex with all umpteen other hot guys. Even sent me a message here that his family was "so" important to him.
Another model was spending his time with his girlfriend who was also a cam model. Told me he was making trips to his home town in Russia. After he visited his sick Dad, he would make it back to the site. Nope, he was in SPB with his gal on the town watching concerts. I love social media. If you're savvy enough, it connects the dots.
Like this viewer, I don't believe the every weekend I have to go to my family story. And we are entitled to what we expect and pay for on this site.
I would never tell anyone to tell their family to go to hell, but it seems that people do it themselves without any help. Quote
I don't believe they are with family or dog either globa, I've seen them on social media. They are partying with the money they earn here, or for the porn actors, on porn shoots. Do they have a right to do so? Yes. Do they have a right to string along members and leave them hanging as if the members are the center of their lives so they can get every last cent out of them? No.
Dogs, grandmothers. I've heard the same story numerous times. When I was new on this site one guy told me the same thing, his grandmother this and his grandmother that. I was his top fan. Did his sweet talk and please wait for me honey after the weekend talk.(so I would spend more private show money with him). Then I saw him on another prominent porn star's Instagram eating lavishly in Capetown, seeing the sites, of course he was probably having sex with all umpteen other hot guys. Even sent me a message here that his family was "so" important to him.
Another model was spending his time with his girlfriend who was also a cam model. Told me he was making trips to his home town in Russia. After he visited his sick Dad, he would make it back to the site. Nope, he was in SPB with his gal on the town watching concerts. I love social media. If you're savvy enough, it connects the dots.
Like this viewer, I don't believe the every weekend I have to go to my family story. And we are entitled to what we expect and pay for on this site.
I would never tell anyone to tell their family to go to hell, but it seems that people do it themselves without any help.
We forget this is a site for fantasy and entertainment. There is no promise of truth from fans or performers. For the first year or so I pretended to be a male because it gave me an eavesdropping insight I couldn't get as a female. I didn't see any harm in it. I know we fans, like models, tell stories that are pure fiction. But because we sometimes feel a connection, we forget most of what we experience here are the paid services of performers. In large part, they reflect what we want from them: a boyfriend, someone who needs help or support, a sex object, an energetic playful place to spend time, etc. If we have a need to be needed, lord help us! Quote
Dogs, grandmothers. I've heard the same story numerous times. When I was new on this site one guy told me the same thing, his grandmother this and his grandmother that. I was his top fan. Did his sweet talk and please wait for me honey after the weekend talk.(so I would spend more private show money with him). Then I saw him on another prominent porn star's Instagram eating lavishly in Capetown, seeing the sites, of course he was probably having sex with all umpteen other hot guys. Even sent me a message here that his family was "so" important to him.
Another model was spending his time with his girlfriend who was also a cam model. Told me he was making trips to his home town in Russia. After he visited his sick Dad, he would make it back to the site. Nope, he was in SPB with his gal on the town watching concerts. I love social media. If you're savvy enough, it connects the dots.
Like this viewer, I don't believe the every weekend I have to go to my family story. And we are entitled to what we expect and pay for on this site.
I would never tell anyone to tell their family to go to hell, but it seems that people do it themselves without any help.
We forget this is a site for fantasy and entertainment. There is no promise of truth from fans or performers. For the first year or so I pretended to be a male because it gave me an eavesdropping insight I couldn't get as a female. I didn't see any harm in it. I know we fans, like models, tell stories that are pure fiction. But because we sometimes feel a connection, we forget most of what we experience here are the paid services of performers. In large part, they reflect what we want from them: a boyfriend, someone who needs help or support, a sex object, an energetic playful place to spend time, etc. If we have a need to be needed, lord help us! Quote
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gofish
8/12/21 @ 3:28am
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Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
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I don't believe they are with family or dog either globa, I've seen them on social media. They are partying with the money they earn here, or for the porn actors, on porn shoots. Do they have a right to do so? Yes. Do they have a right to string along members and leave them hanging as if the members are the center of their lives so they can get every last cent out of them? No.
Dogs, grandmothers. I've heard the same story numerous times. When I was new on this site one guy told me the same thing, his grandmother this and his grandmother that. I was his top fan. Did his sweet talk and please wait for me honey after the weekend talk.(so I would spend more private show money with him). Then I saw him on another prominent porn star's Instagram eating lavishly in Capetown, seeing the sites, of course he was probably having sex with all umpteen other hot guys. Even sent me a message here that his family was "so" important to him.
Another model was spending his time with his girlfriend who was also a cam model. Told me he was making trips to his home town in Russia. After he visited his sick Dad, he would make it back to the site. Nope, he was in SPB with his gal on the town watching concerts. I love social media. If you're savvy enough, it connects the dots.
Like this viewer, I don't believe the every weekend I have to go to my family story. And we are entitled to what we expect and pay for on this site.
I would never tell anyone to tell their family to go to hell, but it seems that people do it themselves without any help.
ColinTexas If you believe what a model says sort of depends on the model you might be connecting with. I am sure there are models on the site who will string the viewers on with many a tale, but flirt is a fantasy zone in the first place. It might not seem to be a nice thing to do but members on the site must proceed with some caution. I might suggest don't lump all models into the same category as there are some who don't tell tall tales.
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graybearphx
8/12/21 @ 11:57am
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Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 569
I was surprised to learn a small Colombian studio is CLOSED on Sundays, so models are forced to take that day off. Similarly, those who are affiliated with that studio and work from home do notv really have studio support on Sundays. Weird , I thought, since that SHOULD be one of the busier days. It also puts their models at a disadvantage when there are multi-day promos that include Sunday.
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I don't believe they are with family or dog either globa, I've seen them on social media. They are partying with the money they earn here, or for the porn actors, on porn shoots. Do they have a right to do so? Yes. Do they have a right to string along members and leave them hanging as if the members are the center of their lives so they can get every last cent out of them? No.
Dogs, grandmothers. I've heard the same story numerous times. When I was new on this site one guy told me the same thing, his grandmother this and his grandmother that. I was his top fan. Did his sweet talk and please wait for me honey after the weekend talk.(so I would spend more private show money with him). Then I saw him on another prominent porn star's Instagram eating lavishly in Capetown, seeing the sites, of course he was probably having sex with all umpteen other hot guys. Even sent me a message here that his family was "so" important to him.
Another model was spending his time with his girlfriend who was also a cam model. Told me he was making trips to his home town in Russia. After he visited his sick Dad, he would make it back to the site. Nope, he was in SPB with his gal on the town watching concerts. I love social media. If you're savvy enough, it connects the dots.
Like this viewer, I don't believe the every weekend I have to go to my family story. And we are entitled to what we expect and pay for on this site.
I would never tell anyone to tell their family to go to hell, but it seems that people do it themselves without any help.
You are NOT entitled to what you expect. Your expectations are not part of the agreement for anybody to work here. If you have paid for something, you are entitled to have what you paid for. That does not mean models have to show up for work because it's your favorite day to watch.
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gofish
8/14/21 @ 3:40am
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You are NOT entitled to what you expect. Your expectations are not part of the agreement for anybody to work here. If you have paid for something, you are entitled to have what you paid for. That does not mean models have to show up for work because it's your favorite day to watch.
carbon_unit is right in that most models on the site are here for most likely the same reasons and that is to provide a fantasy. You as a member need to realize that any sort of friendship connection has nothing to do with them being on the site. You as a member have the choice to go into just about any chatroom on the site and leave any which do not live up to your expectation.
Flirt is nothing more than a trip in a fantasy world and if you connect with any way to a model on the site there is always a chance of emotional risks.
Enjoy your time with the models who make you happy and if you wish to seek more that is where the real world comes into play.
Just remember no one on the site is here to judge, but rather help you understand the way the site generally is.
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You are NOT entitled to what you expect. Your expectations are not part of the agreement for anybody to work here. If you have paid for something, you are entitled to have what you paid for. That does not mean models have to show up for work because it's your favorite day to watch.
A slew of models play with our minds. "I wait (sic) you"...."When will you come back, I will be here"..."I am so bored when you are not here"....familiar tone? Their feigned expectations become our expectations. A lot of mind games go on here and play on the psychology of the viewers. And many of you (us) are here because of loneliness, lack of social skills, or as I saw in another post, the man upstairs just didn't grace you with beautiful physical attributes. These models play with your wanting them and being absent when we want them the most is part of the psychology in keeping you as their "spender" as they call us. I've been told to meet them at certain times, then they don't show up maybe because of the stupid grandmother story or some other cockamanie story. I've helped pay for contests to be won with the promise of a show deal only to show up that promised day and find that performer in a multi-hour show with his other favorite. The same thing happening day after day until the deal expired. Am I feeling entitled, yes. They want my credits and to keep sending me their sappy messages and private whispers of "where have you been, ", "I've been waiting (again sic) you", "I'll be here at this time just for you (but not really", then they need to be here on the days I can be here. I'm entitled to it. My expectations don't require people to work here, but when they ask us to be here at their beck and call, I expect some leeway on showing up at their inconvenience. We work so we can enjoy places like this but not when we are rushing home from work or to work to just boot up this site for 5 minutes. Who works for whom? Quote
A slew of models play with our minds. "I wait (sic) you"...."When will you come back, I will be here"..."I am so bored when you are not here"....familiar tone? Their feigned expectations become our expectations. A lot of mind games go on here and play on the psychology of the viewers. And many of you (us) are here because of loneliness, lack of social skills, or as I saw in another post, the man upstairs just didn't grace you with beautiful physical attributes. These models play with your wanting them and being absent when we want them the most is part of the psychology in keeping you as their "spender" as they call us. I've been told to meet them at certain times, then they don't show up maybe because of the stupid grandmother story or some other cockamanie story. I've helped pay for contests to be won with the promise of a show deal only to show up that promised day and find that performer in a multi-hour show with his other favorite. The same thing happening day after day until the deal expired. Am I feeling entitled, yes. They want my credits and to keep sending me their sappy messages and private whispers of "where have you been, ", "I've been waiting (again sic) you", "I'll be here at this time just for you (but not really", then they need to be here on the days I can be here. I'm entitled to it. My expectations don't require people to work here, but when they ask us to be here at their beck and call, I expect some leeway on showing up at their inconvenience. We work so we can enjoy places like this but not when we are rushing home from work or to work to just boot up this site for 5 minutes. Who works for whom?
Of course if they make you a promise (whether it's a show or just being there at a certain time) they should keep that promise, or at least send you a message apologizing if they couldn't/didn't. The original complaint, however, was just about models choosing not to work on weekends, which is their total right to do.
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gofish
8/14/21 @ 1:46pm
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Of course if they make you a promise (whether it's a show or just being there at a certain time) they should keep that promise, or at least send you a message apologizing if they couldn't/didn't. The original complaint, however, was just about models choosing not to work on weekends, which is their total right to do.
What gloababatrana said is correct. The time models spend on line is a mere small portion of their lives and the boundaries that memember are allowed access to. However just a suggestion to those models who see members as mere banks at some point it will backfire on you. No matter what type of site this is there will always be human emotions in play.
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Guys, sorry, the intent of my post was just to lament the fact that wish my preferred models could also work the weekends. Also to point out the lesser quality change of the models, especially the belami models. I was not trying to start a heated discussion. They have the right to work whenever they want, but not the right to keep me waiting on what little time I do have here. I've since visited other sites with more diversity and it seems to suit me. I just don't pay attention to the attempts to seduce my mind and my heart anymore. There are too many charlatans, even at such a young age. I've learned not to trust a soul here.
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gofish
8/14/21 @ 7:57pm
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Guys, sorry, the intent of my post was just to lament the fact that wish my preferred models could also work the weekends. Also to point out the lesser quality change of the models, especially the belami models. I was not trying to start a heated discussion. They have the right to work whenever they want, but not the right to keep me waiting on what little time I do have here. I've since visited other sites with more diversity and it seems to suit me. I just don't pay attention to the attempts to seduce my mind and my heart anymore. There are too many charlatans, even at such a young age. I've learned not to trust a soul here.
Drake yep it is quite possible the comments took over, but you are correct that no model on the site should treat any member on the site that way. It is called showing some respect to those who take the time to visit the chatroom and actually follow through with any promises and if you can't at least have the guts to tell the member it is not possible.
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Drake yep it is quite possible the comments took over, but you are correct that no model on the site should treat any member on the site that way. It is called showing some respect to those who take the time to visit the chatroom and actually follow through with any promises and if you can't at least have the guts to tell the member it is not possible.
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Guys, sorry, the intent of my post was just to lament the fact that wish my preferred models could also work the weekends. Also to point out the lesser quality change of the models, especially the belami models. I was not trying to start a heated discussion. They have the right to work whenever they want, but not the right to keep me waiting on what little time I do have here. I've since visited other sites with more diversity and it seems to suit me. I just don't pay attention to the attempts to seduce my mind and my heart anymore. There are too many charlatans, even at such a young age. I've learned not to trust a soul here.
I know what you mean I work and I wish more guys I like were available on the weekends. I am happy when they have time off to enjoy their lives and sometimes I check their profiles on weekends to see if they had any tips or new fans because I like when they are supported hopefully that means I’ll see them again even if I decide to take a break from this for awhile. The model I’ve been visiting recently logs in to the site after my working hours are over so that’s good for me. He takes the weekends off but sometimes he logs in on Saturday. He was kind enough to share with me his actual schedule and so far he’s been keeping it. I’m not really into the belami models because they are mostly too young looking for my tastes I like the more manly looking younger guys that are clean shaven or with nice trim well kept facial hair in their 20s to mid 30s. Like you I’ve learned not to trust a soul but I do expect trust between me and model that they put in the effort when I dish out the credits.
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I know what you mean I work and I wish more guys I like were available on the weekends. I am happy when they have time off to enjoy their lives and sometimes I check their profiles on weekends to see if they had any tips or new fans because I like when they are supported hopefully that means I’ll see them again even if I decide to take a break from this for awhile. The model I’ve been visiting recently logs in to the site after my working hours are over so that’s good for me. He takes the weekends off but sometimes he logs in on Saturday. He was kind enough to share with me his actual schedule and so far he’s been keeping it. I’m not really into the belami models because they are mostly too young looking for my tastes I like the more manly looking younger guys that are clean shaven or with nice trim well kept facial hair in their 20s to mid 30s. Like you I’ve learned not to trust a soul but I do expect trust between me and model that they put in the effort when I dish out the credits.
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