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Male Performer Chat: Underneath this Pretty Face
Will this ever end, especially with these youngsters and their lack of experience with the world? There is a prevailing mockery and prejudice, especially from these studios. A model saying that when he went to South Africa to film, he mused that the lips of the South African Blacks prevented him from understanding them. A bit of superior colonial attitude that disgusted me. On another note, a Russian model, initials W.T. who is no longer here mocked asian people during our conversation by taking his fingers and stretching his eyes and of course, the ensuing voicing of a strong Chinese accent of a person trying to speak English.
Most of the time, I enjoyed my conversations with the models here, but after 4 years, I have encountered the most ignorant and worse of all the most VOLUNTARILY ignorant, to which their youth cannot even account for their ignorant rants.
The model that is possibly in question here likes to say and think that "whites" cannot say anything about black people anymore. NOT TRUE. People like him need to get educated before saying anything. He is told by his family and friends that any news other than the news they read is not news.
On the other hand, he is here to act and that is what he does, he acts and performs. He is good at what he does, getting you attached to his act that he wants to be your one and only. If you are okay with that and able to ignore what he really believes about you if you are not white, then, so be it. I cannot ignore it.
Since neither Flirt nor his studio seems to care about their openly racist models (notice their total lack of comment on here?), I'd say it isn't going to end. Well, I do have some hope that enough people are turned off by reading about it here that they'll stay away. I know I will; enough people have testified to it on here.
It's not their youth; I know plenty of young people who aren't racists. You would think they'd at least have enough sense to keep it to themselves. If enough decent people say "enough!" and don't visit them, maybe economics will drive them off; at the very least, people won't feel they've contributed to keeping this kind of bullshit alive.
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Most of the time, I enjoyed my conversations with the models here, but after 4 years, I have encountered the most ignorant and worse of all the most VOLUNTARILY ignorant, to which their youth cannot even account for their ignorant rants.
The model that is possibly in question here likes to say and think that "whites" cannot say anything about black people anymore. NOT TRUE. People like him need to get educated before saying anything. He is told by his family and friends that any news other than the news they read is not news.
On the other hand, he is here to act and that is what he does, he acts and performs. He is good at what he does, getting you attached to his act that he wants to be your one and only. If you are okay with that and able to ignore what he really believes about you if you are not white, then, so be it. I cannot ignore it.
Since neither Flirt nor his studio seems to care about their openly racist models (notice their total lack of comment on here?), I'd say it isn't going to end. Well, I do have some hope that enough people are turned off by reading about it here that they'll stay away. I know I will; enough people have testified to it on here.
It's not their youth; I know plenty of young people who aren't racists. You would think they'd at least have enough sense to keep it to themselves. If enough decent people say "enough!" and don't visit them, maybe economics will drive them off; at the very least, people won't feel they've contributed to keeping this kind of bullshit alive.
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It's not their youth; I know plenty of young people who aren't racists. You would think they'd at least have enough sense to keep it to themselves. If enough decent people say "enough!" and don't visit them, maybe economics will drive them off; at the very least, people won't feel they've contributed to keeping this kind of bullshit alive.
It's ignorance and coming from a background of people who have uneducated assumptions about others. They feed off their extremism and it is easy to to fall into place with your friends and family beliefs to make them happy since you are doing a line of work here that will probably not please your family.
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Many.and several have verified which ethnicities they hate with some derogatory and viciously stated slang. Some have verified a white only confortability zone and that theirs at F 4 F and belami are being messed up. I ve visited some of my favorites less for this and a couple other reasons. Their freedom of speech and opinion of course, downer though....some bad date topic rules should be adhered to maybe.
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It's not their youth; I know plenty of young people who aren't racists. You would think they'd at least have enough sense to keep it to themselves. If enough decent people say "enough!" and don't visit them, maybe economics will drive them off; at the very least, people won't feel they've contributed to keeping this kind of bullshit alive.
HornySucker1, you are completely right, it is not their youth, this is an attitude that can be found in everyone. I have heard this model also say that "I am only a b-o-y from Bratislava, what do I know?" (the non-hyphenated word is a banned word). That did surprise me at the time when he said that.
You can think and say what you want to say. It is your freedom to do so and my freedom to choose (more wisely) whose chatrooms I visit. But if you are here as a model and we are here as clients, we are not just "b-o-y-s". When you are here, you know a lot.
Once you give yourself up to the photographers and scouts that photograph you naked and you volunteer to do porn and chat on an adult site, you are no longer just a "b-o-y". When you make an extra effort to do porn by traveling to Prague after failing the tryout in Bratislava, you are no longer "just a b-o-y". You might portray a "b-o-y" in your films or pass yourself off as one here but you are not longer just here as a "b-o-y". Quote
HornySucker1, you are completely right, it is not their youth, this is an attitude that can be found in everyone. I have heard this model also say that "I am only a b-o-y from Bratislava, what do I know?" (the non-hyphenated word is a banned word). That did surprise me at the time when he said that.
You can think and say what you want to say. It is your freedom to do so and my freedom to choose (more wisely) whose chatrooms I visit. But if you are here as a model and we are here as clients, we are not just "b-o-y-s". When you are here, you know a lot.
Once you give yourself up to the photographers and scouts that photograph you naked and you volunteer to do porn and chat on an adult site, you are no longer just a "b-o-y". When you make an extra effort to do porn by traveling to Prague after failing the tryout in Bratislava, you are no longer "just a b-o-y". You might portray a "b-o-y" in your films or pass yourself off as one here but you are not longer just here as a "b-o-y".
Not to mention that I know young men in Bratislava, both virtually on here and in real life from my travels there (a different set of people, of course) who are not like this. Neither youth nor being from there is an excuse. (And, sadly, I know people who are no longer young and totally American who share these attitudes.)
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I am just going to let everyone know point blank at the start that I'm a black guy or turn on the cam 2 cam, no holds barred at all. There are a lot of us here and if we at least show our true "colors" up front even if it is from the neck down if you want to remain incognito, that will get all the guys used to knowing that we do not look like all Czech and Slovak white dudes. Hell, with the exception of a few new ones, they all look alike to me, almost like siblings. That crew seems to be somewhat sheltered and some very narrow minded. Let's have fun here, open up your mind, model that seems to have a problem, and put your color scheme to a rest. Everyone's semen is whitish and our assholes are all pink on the inside after all.
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Replying to the original post on this string.
We all have our preferences of partners in bed. We all have our fetishes.
BUT people's characters are different and I judge people's characters based on their merit. I have friends of every color and I have people that I don't like because of their bad character.
AND it sounds like this model that you had been tipping heavily is judging a new model's character based on his skin color.
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We all have our preferences of partners in bed. We all have our fetishes.
BUT people's characters are different and I judge people's characters based on their merit. I have friends of every color and I have people that I don't like because of their bad character.
AND it sounds like this model that you had been tipping heavily is judging a new model's character based on his skin color.
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I have happily tipped heavily this seemingly nice model with an active ohmibod show and helped jettison him to the top with thousands of tips. Literally thousands. The models who know me know I tip big, I tip for the smile, the grin, the laughs. I have spent and tipped hundreds of thousands to this particular belami Studio in Slovakia for my favorites. This studio seems to get it and get the guys that I like. And this guy was my number 1. In fact he was the Model of the Week at this time. He has hit top ten on the site two months in a row.
Suddenly, this particular model tells me as we are about to get going..."did you see our studio has a Black model...can you believe it...and shakes his head and rolls his eyes..." He has made many disparaging comments about immigrants before which I had ignored, telling me about the crimes they committed as if no one else commits the same crimes. I chalked it off to youth and ignorance but now I see this is a deeper problem that he has that is rooted in his beliefs. He criticizes the "Hungarization" of Slovakia, yet he is half Hungarian. His skin to me has a more Melanin Hue that darkens faster in the solarium than the other Slovaks and Czechs. He should get his DNA checked. He may have "the" Roma genes from the Indians and Middle Easterners that migrated to Europe.
We proceed and as the show goes on, my enthusiasm wanes and I just click like a robot without the excitement and let him finish himself off. He suddenly looked silly to me just with his legs up in the air in his signature pose, gaping open his hole, waiting for more tips and I felt a shame. I left him in that pose and I stopped my private.
I am White, but my family is intermarried with Blacks, Latinos and Asians. Here I am hiring for my own pleasure, someone who holds my family in disdain. He has said before, that just because whites say something bad about Colored people, they get criticized. I should tell him that it is because of whites like him that keep saying racist comments, not Whites like me. Everyone gets criticized.
In this day and age, this belief and behavior befuddles me.
To be on this site, to perform on this site and to have those views are so incredulous to me. We do not want to be judged for being on this site and the performers certainly do not want to be judged and even block their countries from seeing them on the site.
I woke up from my spending spree and I have taken a step back. How many guys have I supported there fuel this type of thinking?
it seems to me that these people absolutely do not need to pay attention, condemnation is also attention. this criticism will not let them know that they are wrong, just accept that there are such worthless people
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Suddenly, this particular model tells me as we are about to get going..."did you see our studio has a Black model...can you believe it...and shakes his head and rolls his eyes..." He has made many disparaging comments about immigrants before which I had ignored, telling me about the crimes they committed as if no one else commits the same crimes. I chalked it off to youth and ignorance but now I see this is a deeper problem that he has that is rooted in his beliefs. He criticizes the "Hungarization" of Slovakia, yet he is half Hungarian. His skin to me has a more Melanin Hue that darkens faster in the solarium than the other Slovaks and Czechs. He should get his DNA checked. He may have "the" Roma genes from the Indians and Middle Easterners that migrated to Europe.
We proceed and as the show goes on, my enthusiasm wanes and I just click like a robot without the excitement and let him finish himself off. He suddenly looked silly to me just with his legs up in the air in his signature pose, gaping open his hole, waiting for more tips and I felt a shame. I left him in that pose and I stopped my private.
I am White, but my family is intermarried with Blacks, Latinos and Asians. Here I am hiring for my own pleasure, someone who holds my family in disdain. He has said before, that just because whites say something bad about Colored people, they get criticized. I should tell him that it is because of whites like him that keep saying racist comments, not Whites like me. Everyone gets criticized.
In this day and age, this belief and behavior befuddles me.
To be on this site, to perform on this site and to have those views are so incredulous to me. We do not want to be judged for being on this site and the performers certainly do not want to be judged and even block their countries from seeing them on the site.
I woke up from my spending spree and I have taken a step back. How many guys have I supported there fuel this type of thinking?
it seems to me that these people absolutely do not need to pay attention, condemnation is also attention. this criticism will not let them know that they are wrong, just accept that there are such worthless people
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Flirt should never be a place for any sort of race comments and hope the site took note of this and responded in the correct way. There are many performers on the site of different races and if you take to the time to know them you just might discover what lovely people they are 
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This model is (was) popular if we are speaking about the same one. I'd done privates with him. He transformed over the year from a sweet, innocent look to one that is rough and almost skinhead appearing. If this is the same model we are talking about from Slovakia, he has pretty much told me he thought it was unfair that the first president of his country is remembered for handing over the Jewish people to the concentration camps. He didn't seem to think that was a big deal. I was a bit..like ah....yeah...this guy is really thinking this? I got an earful of his anti-Soros and fake news spiel. I'm almost sorry that one of my shows was not unshared as it was used for site advertising. That was in February.
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I wonder how you could spend thousands credit for someone who you don't know well , just is seems strange to me .
I was one of the top spenders/regulars. I will take my money to other models. Kudos to the studio which has branched out like the rest of the world. More than likely the remaining top spenders have the same narrow outlook on life and this model with whom to escape and spout their views.
I won't expound on any other political or religious views, I was just shocked at the flippant attitude.
On with the fun, sorry, I will think about taking this posting off the forum.
He should read about all the Czechoslovakians who left Europe. the Irish immigrants, the Italians and even Russians....all the "White" immigrants who suffered the same disdain and persecutions when they came to the USA. I doubt he reads anything other than what his visionaries want him to read. He has said several times that he doesn't read the news at all, only well chosen articles by his brother and family, articles that probably fashion his mind away from the truth and only to their liking.
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"I wonder how you could spend thousands credit for someone who you don't know well , just is seems strange to me ."
I spend for the show, the fun, but this particular guy started to spout off his ideas. We had been in numerous privates to, the shows were to my liking, and over time he started speaking more and showed and told me his true beliefs. I shouldn't have to explain what I spend. If we like what we see, it is rewarded. If I don't like it and I feel insulted, I can move on and tell about it in the reviews or the forum. The point that is missed perhaps is the hypocrisy of me staying with this model and supporting him when he has those beliefs. Quote
I spend for the show, the fun, but this particular guy started to spout off his ideas. We had been in numerous privates to, the shows were to my liking, and over time he started speaking more and showed and told me his true beliefs. I shouldn't have to explain what I spend. If we like what we see, it is rewarded. If I don't like it and I feel insulted, I can move on and tell about it in the reviews or the forum. The point that is missed perhaps is the hypocrisy of me staying with this model and supporting him when he has those beliefs. Quote
why so many words when such people are not only in the role of models on this site. look around and stop making all the models look so terrible. I had members who considered me to be an animal and a piece of meat, I don’t say that all of them are because I have friends among members who are very nice people. so maybe you will stop and move on, meet new good people? Quote
why so many words when such people are not only in the role of models on this site. look around and stop making all the models look so terrible. I had members who considered me to be an animal and a piece of meat, I don’t say that all of them are because I have friends among members who are very nice people. so maybe you will stop and move on, meet new good people?
It is bad to be treated in a way that dehumanizes you.
It is also bad to look down on people because of the color of their skin, to make up stories about them or blame them for one's bad luck. Minorities, especially minorities that are a different color or culture are often the target of disgruntled people. And the model that I am talking about comes from a family that targets and places blame on minorities, especially colored minorities for their lack or losing position in their country's society.
We are not picking on models here and I am sorry that you might have interpreted it in that way.
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We all have our preferences or type, and we are all here as member and model with our own sexual fetishes and deviance. There is no reason to judge or look down on each other, especially for skin color. That prejudice comes from some other source, insecure ignorance and a lack of a real education.
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I will complete the title: Underneath this Pretty Face....is a model who was prospering from your credits and probably didn't care anything about you. Too bad he blew it when he opened his mouth. Sounds like he was raking it in. He derailed his own gravy train. It also sounds like he was not working too hard to get credits from you in the end. There's lots of nice models around. Don't stick to only one.
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I see some nonwhite bel ami chat models now. Let's see what happens with their films. Let's see if they portray cute black, asians and latinos in a good light or if they try to portray the nonwhite models as "novelties". Will they be able to pull this off professionally or are they stuck with the one "Johan Paulik" product who strongly resembles the model in this string.
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It’s still hard for me to realize and accept the fact that in 21st century we still have to witness racism everywhere. And exposing this filthy side in your room while people from all around the world can watch you is ridiculous. I am a migrant myself, I can make jokes about it but I would never insult anyone for their choice of place to live. Same goes about the color of the skin, the shape of eyes - it’s not the reason to hate. There are an only one difference between people - some of them acting like Human, some of them not. And it’s the matter of education and how they were raising up.
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It’s still hard for me to realize and accept the fact that in 21st century we still have to witness racism everywhere. And exposing this filthy side in your room while people from all around the world can watch you is ridiculous. I am a migrant myself, I can make jokes about it but I would never insult anyone for their choice of place to live. Same goes about the color of the skin, the shape of eyes - it’s not the reason to hate. There are an only one difference between people - some of them acting like Human, some of them not. And it’s the matter of education and how they were raising up.
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Kylie, thanks for replying, and for the opposite sex reading and replying to this subject that seems to have a lot of guys patronizing the guys picking their feet up off the floor as if there's a mouse running around underneath them. I am sure there are many clients that say nothing lest they lose their dear status with their models. However, I will not wither away. This model we are speaking of here was easy to track on social media and what I saw from his brother is a barrage of white supremacist postings. The apple here...the apple tree casting shade over it. Another model thought that since he joked with his asian friend about his "eyes", he could joke with me about them too and wondered why I didn't find it funny. Go figure.
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Couldn’t just go by and don’t reply to this topic.
Kylie, thanks for replying, and for the opposite sex reading and replying to this subject that seems to have a lot of guys patronizing the guys picking their feet up off the floor as if there's a mouse running around underneath them. I am sure there are many clients that say nothing lest they lose their dear status with their models. However, I will not wither away. This model we are speaking of here was easy to track on social media and what I saw from his brother is a barrage of white supremacist postings. The apple here...the apple tree casting shade over it. Another model thought that since he joked with his asian friend about his "eyes", he could joke with me about them too and wondered why I didn't find it funny. Go figure.
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On this model’s fb site, and by following his friend list on there, I see his brother's fb site as well. White Supremacy postings by brother, but both follow equally disturbing organizations. Ok. It is everyone's right to do their own thing and what you do on your own time is your business. But don't bring and spout out your radical beliefs and attitude here. I am more upset at myself than anything.
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