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Male Performer Chat: Underneath this Pretty Face
BobbyNite
Created by: bobbynite

8/1/20 @ 10:57am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 77

I heard the best statement from Bel Ami model Tim Moffie. It was truly spontaneous as we were talking about his travels with the company. He said that he met so many other people of other races that acted and behaved so much better and treated people so much better than people from his own country and the people that judge them. He is one of the few models that seems to really have his eyes and ears and his mind open. Unlike "F.M.", who has already judged blacks and Asians and only reads and believes awful things about immigrants and seems to have disrespect for those that don't fit his idea of how people should look like. Tim has an open mind, and gives me hope for the new group of Bel Ami models. He seems to have learned and experienced more from his Africa trip than a lot of them. He also has a high regard for human life after talking to him. He is perhaps one of the youngest but one of the most worldly and open-minded of the models there.

He may appear youthful and playful, but when he shares his spontaneous thoughts and feelings, he is even more beautiful as a person and shows more wisdom and thoughtfulness than the other models of his troop.
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OlivierArnot
Created by: olivierarnot

8/8/20 @ 8:18am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Europe
Posts: 256

If we were all had to use Cam2Cam as soon as we entered a chat room, I think the models would be shocked to see at how diverse the crowd is that watches them. They would see that the color of a person, or the appearance of a person is a times radically different than the prejudice they give to that person.

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Dan Harding
Created by: Dan Harding

8/8/20 @ 4:26pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

I have happily tipped heavily this seemingly nice model with an active ohmibod show and helped jettison him to the top with thousands of tips. Literally thousands. The models who know me know I tip big, I tip for the smile, the grin, the laughs. I have spent and tipped hundreds of thousands to this particular belami Studio in Slovakia for my favorites. This studio seems to get it and get the guys that I like. And this guy was my number 1. In fact he was the Model of the Week at this time. He has hit top ten on the site two months in a row.
Suddenly, this particular model tells me as we are about to get going..."did you see our studio has a Black model...can you believe it...and shakes his head and rolls his eyes..." He has made many disparaging comments about immigrants before which I had ignored, telling me about the crimes they committed as if no one else commits the same crimes. I chalked it off to youth and ignorance but now I see this is a deeper problem that he has that is rooted in his beliefs. He criticizes the "Hungarization" of Slovakia, yet he is half Hungarian. His skin to me has a more Melanin Hue that darkens faster in the solarium than the other Slovaks and Czechs. He should get his DNA checked. He may have "the" Roma genes from the Indians and Middle Easterners that migrated to Europe.
We proceed and as the show goes on, my enthusiasm wanes and I just click like a robot without the excitement and let him finish himself off. He suddenly looked silly to me just with his legs up in the air in his signature pose, gaping open his hole, waiting for more tips and I felt a shame. I left him in that pose and I stopped my private.
I am White, but my family is intermarried with Blacks, Latinos and Asians. Here I am hiring for my own pleasure, someone who holds my family in disdain. He has said before, that just because whites say something bad about Colored people, they get criticized. I should tell him that it is because of whites like him that keep saying racist comments, not Whites like me. Everyone gets criticized.
In this day and age, this belief and behavior befuddles me.
To be on this site, to perform on this site and to have those views are so incredulous to me. We do not want to be judged for being on this site and the performers certainly do not want to be judged and even block their countries from seeing them on the site.
I woke up from my spending spree and I have taken a step back. How many guys have I supported there fuel this type of thinking?



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Nathan_Ellis
Created by: nathan_ellis

8/16/20 @ 9:12am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 25

This model doesn't care and won't change. He was brutally open in his private about his feelings about immigrants and very frank about nonwhites. He is gay for pay and he is hoping his "real" family and friends don't find out what he is doing here. He is/was doing this for a living and he happens to have a big mouth that cost him his big spender. His porn films will be out soon and you will feel some sweet serendipity when it is out on display. On the other hand, you didn't know this about him when you were tipping him. You never know really.
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Adan Welling
Created by: Adan Welling

8/19/20 @ 7:55am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

It is almost devastating to note that in the XXI century even different types of discrimination arise when for years we have been working and struggling to see and accept the diversity (of ethnicities, genders, etc ...) and there are simply people who do not dare to look beyond what surrounds them; It is well understood that in some way the beliefs and gave them training these individuals was based on a gridded thought, which is good only accept their "similar" either by race, social class, etc ... But society should evolve over time, they must open their minds to adapt to new changes, now are supposed to be "free" world, "accepting diversity" and this is where we must realize that the word not only welcomes diversity that you say are your fellow man but to each and every one whose cultural, physical personality traits, mental and spiritual makes them them and still belonging to the diversidad.-
How many times we as models or you as users have fueled this violation of rights?
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BobbyNite
Created by: bobbynite

8/23/20 @ 9:55am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 77

It is almost devastating to note that in the XXI century even different types of discrimination arise when for years we have been working and struggling to see and accept the diversity (of ethnicities, genders, etc ...) and there are simply people who do not dare to look beyond what surrounds them; ...
How many times we as models or you as users have fueled this violation of rights?


Well expressed, Adam. Where do we all go from here? On this string, does it matter that we know who this porn actor is. F.M.'s movies are set to come out in a year. Also, does the halfhearted apology that I received from another well known drunken porn actor, K, W., from the same studio that ridiculed asian eyes even matter on this site.

My bets are that nothing will happen to them, and they will get their laughs, their usual pay and they will go on with their lives.

We don't change things after the fact with a string on this forum. We change things as they are happening, instead of getting caught up in our horniness and letting things slide. Say something.

You all are bold enough to say "show us your tits or your dick or your feet or your pussy or your hole".

Call out stupidity on the spot for what it is and who cares about all the high ranking members that support them like they are the "moderators" for the performers and ask you to "calm down". As for the performers who may insult you, they're only pretty for this brief moment of time that is their shining glory. After that your credits have really gone nowhere. Just as we change so do they. I've seen quite a few times now when a performer tries to stage a return. It becomes a reality check for them.


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Nathan_Ellis
Created by: nathan_ellis

8/29/20 @ 8:47am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 25

It would be nice to see a studio or model make a statement that rejects any sort of racial divisiveness. This includes things their models say and how their models mock racial appearances. belami with it's huge presence on this site should take the lead.
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BobbyNite
Created by: bobbynite

8/30/20 @ 11:43am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 77

Don’t hold your breath, Nathan. They’re making millions off their totally white South Africa videos with models like this one. They don’t need to make any statement, they have no societal obligation.
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perfessir
Created by: perfessir

8/30/20 @ 9:35pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Customers pay for what they want to see and fantasize about. Porn vendors know this just as much as companies that sell soap and makeup.
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Bryce_Anders
Created by: bryce_anders

8/30/20 @ 9:52pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 17

If this model only did porn then who really gives a damn. He does chat and he spouts off his prejudiced shit and shows his attitude here, so we give a damn.
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Paul_Bryant
Created by: paul_bryant

8/30/20 @ 11:38pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 20

Customers pay for what they want to see and fantasize about. Porn vendors know this just as much as companies that sell soap and makeup.


Agreed Perfessir.

The studios don't care any more what their models are saying as long as they can bring in the credits here or the viewers for their porn movies.

They don't really care about their models either, other than that they are clean enough to do "condom free" or barebacking sex. The guys, usually at "barely legal" age (and I will emphasize the quotes around barely legal) are solicited by photographers, i.e. scouts, and enticed to go naked with money and from there, some are picked and paid more money than they can dream of to do porn. Some don't realize the lifelong repercussions on such short notice and they are "trained" by their other well paid peers. I have spoken to two now from the studio who have stopped and have great regrets for their rash decisions. The grooming is a well oiled machine. One model told me that all of a sudden, after agreeing to posing naked for a photographer, a poor high school guy like him all of a sudden left a studio with 100 euros in his pocket. And all this time, the photographer kept telling him the fashion market was too tough to get into even after the photographer had advertised to photo-shoot guys for the fashion industry.

The truth is there is a market, that is us, that is out there that buys into this system of handpicking these neophytes. So the risk/benefit is worth it for the pornographers and their scouts.

So is what this guy, F.M., thinks and says a bad thing where there is a diverse audience..yes. It is repulsive and wrong.

But will it be followed up and corrected by his porn company, no, there is no need for them to do so. Their audience will never leave them..


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Created by: gofish

8/31/20 @ 12:20am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: IN YOUR DREAMS
Posts: 1,792

The site is pretty much a place where the good and the bad will always meet up. Thus the need for both models and members to tread lightly. There are always warning signs out there but the gloss of the site can put one into a trance. Just remember what you do on the site is a reflection of the things you will go in life. Feels and emotions can run high on the site so for those models appreciate the members who come to your room and for those members keep in mind that model is a person and one no doubt with feelings. This should be seen as a place to have a good time and when leaving knowing that everyone will be smiling. :thumbsup :thumbsup
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BobbyNite
Created by: bobbynite

10/7/20 @ 4:58am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 77

The site is pretty much a place where the good and the bad will always meet up. Thus the need for both models and members to tread lightly.

In this site where so much sexual deviance is displayed and ENJOYED by both sides, as well as the voyeurism and the exhibitionism...there is no room for narrow mindedness. Whether it is this model that mouths off about dark skinned people or the very famous porn star here that mocks the asian appearance with the excuse that his asian friends laugh at him when he does so.
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Xander Spells
Created by: Xander Spells

10/8/20 @ 12:23pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

that's horrible
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JellyBelly4U
Created by: jellybelly4u

10/17/20 @ 8:42am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

Underneath this pretty face...my own experience is with a Bel Ami pornstar, JD.

I went to his room to check him out because another Bel Ami actor that I liked told me he had done a scene with him and that he "fucks really hard". So...this guy, JD, wanted to show what he was packing in his underwear when he saw my rank, and he saw my VIP status and he honed in on me really hard selling me into a private.

OK. I said, let's do this, my favorite is not here anyway. So we go to private.. and the process was so slow. He basically wanted a tip for each movement, each little part of his body and would even tell me how much to tip...like..."give me 50 credits and I'll show you this", "50 credits and I will flex and show you my that"...I told him (wanting to leave at that point), that I had to get more credits and he said, "I can see that you still have some time"...."you should stay". At that point I was not having a great time.

I was flabbergasted that he had the gall to tell me what to do. I started to excuse myself because I am just a nice person but he went off on me telling me he had taken me to private, he had dedicated this time to me already, he doesn't understand what the problem is, and that he would expect me to return.

Alrighty now...I am not at all beautiful on the outside, the BIG GUY upstairs decided to short-change me in that department but he made me beautiful on the inside and I recused myself politely and let JD down slowly and kindly. But until the very end when I finally hit "END SHOW", he kept up this droning, whining, litany of disappointment in my wanting to end the show.

I just had to get away from him, I felt the whole time, because he was a porn star, he thought he was entitled to so much. He was so full of himself.

He may have some "stage presence" and can "fuck really hard" like his fellow Bel Ami actor once told me but he has the personality of a porcupine UNDERNEATH THIS PRETTY FACE which is just "ok" to me. I was only there to see what he looked like to begin and I got run over with by a Mack truck. I will definitely NOT be watching his shows. I don't care if he can fuck. He leaves a bad experience cemented in my mind.
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NOTSURE0315
Created by: notsure0315

10/19/20 @ 10:28am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: U S A
Posts: 212

thank you and i ll be told to go screw myself again however here goes; even though his name was not divulged and works for now, I had a similar accurrances and maybe same Model (more than one); when I said 'take your derogatory slang and shove it' was told I can go somewhere else. Experience was continued, however respect toward Model changed and requested not to return.../ taking into account that part of the 'viability necessity' some Models feel toward themselves to preserve/establish/retain certain 'standing and presentation' for themselves to ascertain, mobilize, and expand their attractability and credit producing power and capability, the Model should double think whichever length of time word of mouth etc for him/anyone to get pigeon holed and yes some are in demand that they can ignore the issue and continue on (others seem more affected by outside forces not this issue...), the subject can also be addressed with " the whiter you are, the better tips, customers, future you have/!". Some of the Models are between rock and hard place in this issue.....sometimes for existence sake saying nothing and your quiet beliefs are survival, maybe life threatening. Other circumstances are less customers. maybe you ticked him off with yours beliefs, pulled a game and after you leave laughs and lets everyone else know a 'not really'. Derogatory slang should have no place at F4F, not anal, it s required for customers to enjoy and care for their comments (look at the rules for posting), It s been accepted and I read that Models adhere to rules and you can even record abuses. Repeated customers return knowing their favs, even without alchohol, many cams are 'bar and dance venue' welcome and fun oriented with premise Business and Pleasure. The funnest times I ve had has been when maintaining that aspect and both sides stay not 'heavy' and no hurt no foul; and mutual respect all the way around.
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