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jelly420
Created by: jelly420

9/16/10 @ 6:27am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 132

To be fair, I don't always have credits and can usually be found in a few party rooms in addition to a few regular rooms. Just because I don't have credits, does that mean I'm a freeloader as well? Granted, I usually explain to them my situation then there's no further expectation on me.

Also, I'm not one to tell models what to do. I have the utmost respect for them and understand that this is their job and they're trying to make a living, or pick up a little more cash on the side. It doesn't do them any good for me to fill their chatspace with useless garbage. God knows, they have enough bullcrap to deal with.

Obviously, each person has their own idea of how much and how frequently they can/should/will tip in a party chat. For some, that equals why should I/never/not gonna happen. To those people I say, you should get banned. For those who need to be coddled by the model, then so be it. You're just making his or her life harder.

Personally, I'll throw in a good tip either to continue the action, get it started, right after she finishes or just for the hell of it.
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Hailey Lynn
Created by: Hailey Lynn

9/16/10 @ 2:46pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

The definition of a "freeloader" from the most reliable source around (urban dictionary) ...



5. A worthless, lazy, opportunist bumb who takes advantage of people and thinks they should get everything on a silver platter without earning it. If he has a girlfriend, he probably sits at home all day without a job and mooches money and things off her with the excuse, Ill pay you back later, baby, when things improve. She keeps giving him more money because she is nieve, has low self-esteem and too spineless to stand up to him and kick him out. On the other hand, if the freeloader is a female she is probably a spoiled, stuck-up b***h who lives at home and gets money from mommy and daddy while sitting on the can all day eating Bon Bons and watching soaps.



I kinda like #'s 5 and 6 myself :)


eating bon bons and watching soaps.. ahh haha :orglaugh


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Jonny.Bravo
Created by: jonny.bravo

9/18/10 @ 12:42pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 333



Urban dictionary is great, wish i had it, back in mine uni day's Im sure I would have scored an A on mine English exams.

Btw I knew a girl like that a girl that did everything for her bf. Payed him cars house stuff like that, not only that, guy was messing around with anything even resemblimg a woman. Wish I had a girl like that all I usually end up is big boobed stuck-up that is highly sk!lled :evil and can do things most only can dream about but after that she is a little bit like mine magic coding monkey's as long there are some banana's left she hangs around than once its gone she is gone too ;) except in her case its $. :orglaugh :orglaugh

But actually I was going to mention that I was chatting away in Hazinas room or as I like to call her Hazinka :)( Hazinka is a very sexy girl btw and has very very short skirt on today its really short you just want to rip it of so short hmmm too bad im not in st p studio) and she logged off while I was gone, when I came back I was redirected to some room where 2 girls seam to be in party chat except nobody payed up. So one of girls says; ok guy's who don't tip will be banned L :orglaugh L , and one guy's actually tipped.

Not sure what lesson we could learn form this. But it was funny. :winkwink





:twocents this 2 cents are mine but you can only look at them ;) yes Im greedy like that :evil
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Izzzy
Created by: izzzy

9/19/10 @ 11:48am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00



eating bon bons and watching soaps.. ahh haha :orglaugh






Yup!! "Married with Children", Peg Bundy, comes straight to mind eh? :)
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Created by: rheza111

9/20/10 @ 9:41pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: just to the left of center
Posts: 2,431

I lament the hostile environment it has created
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sweetchilli
Created by: sweetchilli

9/20/10 @ 11:11pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 66

Whether you like party chat or not does anyone feel that the vibe or atmosphere around flirt has changed lately?

if so do you think its for better or for worse and if so why?

I'm just trying to get an idea about what people think about it now its been around for close to a month compared to how flirt use to be.


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Easyfellow
Created by: easyfellow

9/20/10 @ 11:55pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 372

Whether you like party chat or not does anyone feel that the vibe or atmosphere around flirt has changed lately?

if so do you think its for better or for worse and if so why?



Some rooms changed for better, some for worse and some stayed the same. :winkwink
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Created by: suggs

9/21/10 @ 12:06pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Left of centre
Posts: 6,768

Speaking to a model and she has admitted she dont do party mode now after a shift last week where it was me and 1 other person that started the tip - and was me that tipped wnough for her to do a full show which meant she didnt think it was fair on us tuppers that eeryone else got a free show.

Maybe an option for party mode could be that when a performer decides to do a show - there is an option for them to only allow those that have tipped to see the show and block all others. :twocents
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Easyfellow
Created by: easyfellow

9/21/10 @ 12:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 372

Maybe an option for party mode could be that when a performer decides to do a show - there is an option for them to only allow those that have tipped to see the show and block all others. :twocents


I agree: it wouldn't be fair to reward those who never tip and banning is a good and justified instrument to prevent them from watching a free show till the end all the time.


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hfactor_
Created by: hfactor_

9/21/10 @ 12:32pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Hanging with the Princess
Posts: 1,102

Speaking to a model and she has admitted she dont do party mode now after a shift last week where it was me and 1 other person that started the tip - and was me that tipped wnough for her to do a full show which meant she didnt think it was fair on us tuppers that eeryone else got a free show.

Maybe an option for party mode could be that when a performer decides to do a show - there is an option for them to only allow those that have tipped to see the show and block all others. :twocents


Or to possibly institute a cover to enter a party room, that will ensure ALL have contributed.

:drinkup
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Caiaphas
Created by: caiaphas

9/21/10 @ 1:29pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: the 665th layer of Hell...
Posts: 299

:bulb I have made mention of this numerous times.. in various guises.... :bulb But if it seems this will remain as an option, why not make it more akin to how Semi-private works? OR .. Anyone entering a model's room set to Party Chat, MUST not only have credits in their wallet, but MUST make a tip, 25cr at least, to enter into the room. maybe this is not a perfect solution, but it sure will keep a room from being filled with 180+ people, 5-10 of which are the only ones tipping... if the same number of people entered the room AND had to pay a 25 credit 'cover' charge.. that would be over 4500 credits... if even HALF that number actually joined to a Party Chat room.. it would still be over 2000 credits to the model and that is just to start with.. additional tipping would ensue after for whatever the model wishes to do.... How does that sound? Please don't flame me too badly.. I wouldn't care if they discontinued Party Chat, as I cannot contribute and usually leave a model's room when she enters Party Chat.. I do NOT like to feel as a freeloader, and can't in good conscience stand how models are treated by most of the NON-tippers! Anyway... :drinkup
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carousel
Created by: carousel

9/21/10 @ 1:30pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761


Maybe an option for party mode could be that when a performer decides to do a show - there is an option for them to only allow those that have tipped to see the show and block all others. :twocents



Easyfellow Posted 9/21, 12:30pm | Post #289

I agree: it wouldn't be fair to reward those who never tip and banning is a good and justified instrument to prevent them from watching a free show till the end all the time.




Or to possibly institute a cover to enter a party room, that will ensure ALL have contributed.



Hmmmmmmm think I suggested this before

But then:
??????????????
I need to give up drinking coffee/soda; it causes me to get confused ...
Thought I read something 'justifying' watching free shows.


Easyfellow Posted 9/15, 12:59pm | Post #267

When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you...

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Easyfellow
Created by: easyfellow

9/21/10 @ 1:38pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 372




Easyfellow Posted 9/21, 12:30pm | Post #289

I agree: it wouldn't be fair to reward those who never tip and banning is a good and justified instrument to prevent them from watching a free show till the end all the time.




??????????????
I need to give up drinking coffee/soda; it causes me to get confused ...



Easyfellow Posted 9/15, 12:59pm | Post #267

When they spend that money in another room than your's, it is bad luck for you...





I doubt if you really understood what i wrote.(could be the coffee-soda)
I wrote that it is fair to block non tipping people before the grande finale of the party chat has arrived.
I really don't see how that collides with that remark in post 267.

Just to summarize:

People have a budget, but they should be able to look around in other rooms, even when they are out of money. They are potential customers once their financial situation has improved.
They also should be able to look around in party chats and to see some teasing and nudity.
It's a matter of marketing to show existing and new customers what they can expect.
But it is also fair to me that a model bans people, before the party has reached its climax, just because those customers didnt pay or never pay.

I dont see a controversy between these 2 posts.

Its an issue for a model, but not for people like you to judge who should be banned and who shouldnt.
What is bothering me about your posts is that you call models who perform in partychat and members who visit partychat cheap.
I understand and accept that you have elevated feelings for your favorite model(s) and you should accept that other people can have other ideas about entertainment.



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carousel
Created by: carousel

9/21/10 @ 6:01pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: forgotten backroad standing still in time
Posts: 761


But it is also fair to me that a model bans people, before the party has reached its climax, just because those customers didnt pay or never pay.



"people like you" as if that's not judging...
As it is, I, and obviously many others, see fundamentally flawed issues with the strip club on the web site factor.
And based on the collective comments in this thread, if these bans were to occur, there'd be more bans than viewers. Though I'd be all for it.

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jjb12
Created by: jjb12

9/22/10 @ 10:43am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: wandering the world
Posts: 2

In my opinion a model should be able to do whatever they want in their room. If a model starts party chat and noone is tipping I think its fair for her to ask for tips. Also, if you all want party chat to be successful, tips are needed. I have seen party chats where hardly anyone tips. Not to say you have to tip all the time but to keep this feature tips need to flow. :twocents
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Created by: lickau

9/22/10 @ 3:19pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Location: Moving slowly but surely somewhere sometime
Posts: 29,285

In my opinion a model should be able to do whatever they want in their room. If a model starts party chat and noone is tipping I think its fair for her to ask for tips. Also, if you all want party chat to be successful, tips are needed. I have seen party chats where hardly anyone tips. Not to say you have to tip all the time but to keep this feature tips need to flow. :twocents



This is FLIRT 4 Free and not Orgasm / Squirt / See toys used for free

Most successful rooms the model uses BAN

1 - For rudeness
2 - Requests without a tip - usually may allow it 1 time , but it is spamming to ask more than 1 time without tipping .
3 - Member sits there 5 , 10 and even past 15 minutes and never tips - Banned before toys used or Orgasm part

Some will disagree and have hard feelings .
Models are here working and deserve to earn
25 tip is only $2.50 and keeps the member in that show - often that day with that model

Window shopping is ok . Rude to stay too long in MY opinion without a tip :twocents
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Jonny.Bravo
Created by: jonny.bravo

9/22/10 @ 3:59pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 333

Speaking to a model and she has admitted she dont do party mode now after a shift last week where it was me and 1 other person that started the tip - and was me that tipped wnough for her to do a full show which meant she didnt think it was fair on us tuppers that eeryone else got a free show.

Maybe an option for party mode could be that when a performer decides to do a show - there is an option for them to only allow those that have tipped to see the show and block all others. :twocents



Are you totally sure that the reason was that she thought it wasn't fair on yous or maybe it was because she thought she didn't get enough out of it.

What ever the reason is I think party chat maybe really is the future of camming, although I don't really like it. But if its good for wallet im 4 it :)and some girls seam to be very successful with it comparing it with some other sites it looks like the most popular models are in open shows. The other seam to be trailing behind, on this site seams to be a little bit different.
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SissyGYRL
Created by: sissygyrl

9/28/10 @ 3:21am (EDT) | UTC - 4:00
Posts: 8

Leave a party chat entrance fee, those people enter a party chat and tip or get kicked out. Set time limit per tip. :twocents
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Kathy Summers
Created by: Kathy Summers

9/28/10 @ 4:48pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00



:offtopic
Great point Purg. At least there is a way to see who copies now, I just wish that there was someone who would actually take faster action when they are notified that a video is up somewhere. Usually I have to report at least twice before I see it removed :(
:offtopic

Now back to tipping... When it comes to tips for nudity and play, if you look at site "clone", the top tip earners usually show nothing to very little in open. They get lots of tips for being who they are. The majority of "clones" top ranked models show and play in privates.



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Kathy Summers
Created by: Kathy Summers

10/1/10 @ 8:45pm (EDT) | UTC - 4:00

:bulb I have made mention of this numerous times.. in various guises.... :bulb But if it seems this will remain as an option, why not make it more akin to how Semi-private works? OR .. Anyone entering a model's room set to Party Chat, MUST not only have credits in their wallet, but MUST make a tip, 25cr at least, to enter into the room. maybe this is not a perfect solution, but it sure will keep a room from being filled with 180+ people, 5-10 of which are the only ones tipping... if the same number of people entered the room AND had to pay a 25 credit 'cover' charge.. that would be over 4500 credits... if even HALF that number actually joined to a Party Chat room.. it would still be over 2000 credits to the model and that is just to start with.. additional tipping would ensue after for whatever the model wishes to do.... How does that sound? Please don't flame me too badly.. I wouldn't care if they discontinued Party Chat, as I cannot contribute and usually leave a model's room when she enters Party Chat.. I do NOT like to feel as a freeloader, and can't in good conscience stand how models are treated by most of the NON-tippers! Anyway... :drinkup



HOw about an automatic boot, give them 3 minutes from the time they enter to tip or they get automatically kicked out, the tippers and keep the partying going as long as they have thrown at least one tip within their first 3 minutes, and perhaps each additional tip adds so many more minutes to the party.
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