7/9/11 @ 4:42pm
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Brad.. you need look no further than this thread and one other in this forum to see that the (TICKET.AT.DOOR) logic is irrelevant and achieves nothing. As i've noted in another post in this thread, and in several others, the abuse springs from those who need do nothing more than buy 30 dollars worth of credits, and largely from those paying a monthly fee for free access to much of the site's property.
I don't have much of any solution for it. *shrug* You know how i am.. fast fast fast off the start line. Hmmmm. But i do have this much to say, when VIPs invent lies wholesale about me, *sigh*, or ANY other person who frequents the site; and invents relationships with Customer Support staff that to my knowledge are entirely ficticious (pardon my spelling errors), who makes repeated negative remarks about models on the site, who creates multiple forum identities solely to promulgate disorder and upset; then i think VS has some obvious options to remedey (sp again i'm afraid) that particular situation.
*shrug* He's even invented conversations with CS claiming they've told him of other sites to visit. I've spoken MANY times with members of the staff here, and i find it nothing short of unimaginable that any VS employee would do so, even as a method of trying to get this trouble maker off of the site. Many of my posts in responce to this customer have been removed.. that does not trouble me, i'm an angry person by nature, and very very direct and honest about the irritants i encounter. But apparently others on the site, including forum monitors, find no issue with the behaviors i've noted above. That, of course, is up to you and your staff. Priorites are made and set; we both understand that.
But let me point out, as satisfying as it may be, to watch this continue, for both VS staff, and forum readers; when Piers turns his attentions on trashing models, as he's already done multiple times in the forum; or trashing the site itself, as he's also done repeatedly, or trashing customers who carry the bandwidth burden of the site to the extents that customers such as I, ccrslaw, its-pp, and several others do.. one has to question exactly what those Priorites are.
I will note this also in closing this post. There is ONE forum above all others where this repeated abusive behaviour starts, is fostered, and then spreads to the remainder of the forums. And that is the VIP forum. I can understand the attraction of having a forum dedicated to those who pay a monthly fee to the business; however, the posting rate there is far lower than the other forums, the threads are largely, hmmmm, irrelivant is too kind a term but *shrug* it works and is not valueladen. So, if I suppose, if anything, i would advocate the elimination of the VIP forum. Let the people who create and foment issues such as "ban the model" and "punish them for not doing what i want" and "simulating sexual satisfaction should be fined" and the other abhorant threads that start there and are allowed to fester, let them do it all out where EVERYONE can see it.
Some of it is already happening of course, as witnessed in the past week or so right here in the threads that you yourself began; i'm happy to see that, the REAL troublemakers become so much more a general irritant this way; and their patterns more clearly observable.
*Catheine Denuve Shrug*
Sorry to take so much time Brad, but you know me.. wtf eh?
Well said, Op Roo. I pretty well agree with all of this. I can also see much better why you view the VIP forum as you do, and you make a good point. We may differ slightly on the solution. Quote
7/9/11 @ 5:33pm
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Location: floating just beneath the surfaces
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Brad.. you need look no further than this thread and one other in this forum to see that the (TICKET.AT.DOOR) logic is irrelevant and achieves nothing. As i've noted in another post in this thread, and in several others, the abuse springs from those who need do nothing more than buy 30 dollars worth of credits, and largely from those paying a monthly fee for free access to much of the site's property.
I don't have much of any solution for it. *shrug* You know how i am.. fast fast fast off the start line. Hmmmm. But i do have this much to say, when VIPs invent lies wholesale about me, *sigh*, or ANY other person who frequents the site; and invents relationships with Customer Support staff that to my knowledge are entirely ficticious (pardon my spelling errors), who makes repeated negative remarks about models on the site, who creates multiple forum identities solely to promulgate disorder and upset; then i think VS has some obvious options to remedey (sp again i'm afraid) that particular situation.
*shrug* He's even invented conversations with CS claiming they've told him of other sites to visit. I've spoken MANY times with members of the staff here, and i find it nothing short of unimaginable that any VS employee would do so, even as a method of trying to get this trouble maker off of the site. Many of my posts in responce to this customer have been removed.. that does not trouble me, i'm an angry person by nature, and very very direct and honest about the irritants i encounter. But apparently others on the site, including forum monitors, find no issue with the behaviors i've noted above. That, of course, is up to you and your staff. Priorites are made and set; we both understand that.
But let me point out, as satisfying as it may be, to watch this continue, for both VS staff, and forum readers; when Piers turns his attentions on trashing models, as he's already done multiple times in the forum; or trashing the site itself, as he's also done repeatedly, or trashing customers who carry the bandwidth burden of the site to the extents that customers such as I, ccrslaw, its-pp, and several others do.. one has to question exactly what those Priorites are.
I will note this also in closing this post. There is ONE forum above all others where this repeated abusive behaviour starts, is fostered, and then spreads to the remainder of the forums. And that is the VIP forum. I can understand the attraction of having a forum dedicated to those who pay a monthly fee to the business; however, the posting rate there is far lower than the other forums, the threads are largely, hmmmm, irrelivant is too kind a term but *shrug* it works and is not valueladen. So, if I suppose, if anything, i would advocate the elimination of the VIP forum. Let the people who create and foment issues such as "ban the model" and "punish them for not doing what i want" and "simulating sexual satisfaction should be fined" and the other abhorant threads that start there and are allowed to fester, let them do it all out where EVERYONE can see it.
Some of it is already happening of course, as witnessed in the past week or so right here in the threads that you yourself began; i'm happy to see that, the REAL troublemakers become so much more a general irritant this way; and their patterns more clearly observable.
*Catheine Denuve Shrug*
Sorry to take so much time Brad, but you know me.. wtf eh?
gosh ronny i haven't felt this many hand prints on me from being handled since i was bum rushed from a dance bar a week or more ago.... hmmm... Quote
7/10/11 @ 1:05am
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Location: Ireland
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