Forum Topics
Technical Support: Next model: Forward arrow - Seriously?
Created by:
chrisdk
4/2/16 @ 3:45am
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Spain, longing for Denmark
Posts: 2,447
Hello admins,
the new feature of a "forward arrow" to a random model's room is quite detrimental and I hope it will be reconsidered.
a) For people loyal to their favorite performers it is annoying to have this big arrow on the main video screen and a wrong click can kick you out of the room and make you miss out on the fun.
b) It doesn't even vanish for neither party nor groups and apparently not even in private shows.
c) Models already have a hard time to bind visitors, though I can see how this makes it more easy to roam around for the "just browsing" type of users.
I am sure, I am not the only one who feels this new feature is too invasive and would suggest to rethink at least a smaller, less central version, the arrow not on the video screen etc.
Regards,
Chris Quote
the new feature of a "forward arrow" to a random model's room is quite detrimental and I hope it will be reconsidered.
a) For people loyal to their favorite performers it is annoying to have this big arrow on the main video screen and a wrong click can kick you out of the room and make you miss out on the fun.
b) It doesn't even vanish for neither party nor groups and apparently not even in private shows.
c) Models already have a hard time to bind visitors, though I can see how this makes it more easy to roam around for the "just browsing" type of users.
I am sure, I am not the only one who feels this new feature is too invasive and would suggest to rethink at least a smaller, less central version, the arrow not on the video screen etc.
Regards,
Chris Quote
Created by:
virgilcircle9
4/2/16 @ 6:10am
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: universities of the world
Posts: 342
I totally agree Chris. It is a real pain and can interrupt a great conversation party group or even worse pvt. especially with people who have large fingers and touch screens. Even a mouse movement over the top of the icons at either side of the screen can cause the problem. Please F4F why is it necessary 
Quote
Quote
I agree. It is a unnecessary addition to the site. I hope the Admins reconsider and remove the feature. Thank you.
Quote
The arrow implies that performers are nondescript and completely interchangeable. It's disrespectful to models and site members, and it suggests that site administrators hold a rather "bovine-esque" view of both. "Move 'em on out!" Moo!
Quote
It's not necessary! Why waste the resources to add this feature.
Quote
Quote
why are they not putting a great big yellow bar under the arrow? Can they not learn from data of more purposeful room selections? Russian roulette anyone? It's like self mutilation, saying 'I want to be redirected'.
I must admit that I did use it. It is something to do in chat rooms that do not want us to chat. I get to hit a button, I get to hit a button. Quote
I must admit that I did use it. It is something to do in chat rooms that do not want us to chat. I get to hit a button, I get to hit a button. Quote
Created by:
chrisdk
4/2/16 @ 5:25pm
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Spain, longing for Denmark
Posts: 2,447
The arrow implies that performers are nondescript and completely interchangeable. It's disrespectful to models and site members, and it suggests that site administrators hold a rather "bovine-esque" view of both. "Move 'em on out!" Moo!
Thank you KFinches, you put into words what I felt when I first saw this arrow appearing ...
Quote
Thank you KFinches, you put into words what I felt when I first saw this arrow appearing ...
Quote
I like the idea of an option to move to the next room quickly while I'm at a chat room(rather than go back to homepage & search), I find it on other cam sites and wondered why flirt didnt have it. The arrow is visible only when I hover over to the right of the model screen so it isn't obtrusive to me but I understand there's still a chance one could click it on error..maybe the arrow could be smaller in size? but still a very useful feature.
Quote
There is a spot on the right hand side of the screen that you can see other models that are online and can click to enter their room. The arrow is just an option to take you somewhere random
Quote
Yes I forgot to mention it's randomness of this feature that I like. Sometimes I don't have anybody specific in mind and prefer to be directed randomly to a room where I can then judge if to go ahead for a chat or show, or click next again and move on.
Quote
Created by:
suggs
4/3/16 @ 1:56pm
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Left of centre
Posts: 6,768
I can remember there was a button on the chat page ( think it was below your favourites list ) that you could press to go to a random room. That would be preferable to the 2 arrows on the video feed.
The "swipe" arrows are not that welcome and don't work all that well.
I've caught the arrow right and the random room it sent me to was the same 1 I was already in. Other experiments of the buttons have put me into a new room only to refresh back to original room.
As for the left button that doesn't take you back to previous room which would be better. Quote
The "swipe" arrows are not that welcome and don't work all that well.
I've caught the arrow right and the random room it sent me to was the same 1 I was already in. Other experiments of the buttons have put me into a new room only to refresh back to original room.
As for the left button that doesn't take you back to previous room which would be better. Quote
Created by:
F4F Administrator
4/4/16 @ 11:53am
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: California, USA
Posts: 3,429
I am amazed and grateful for so many reactions and in fact a many great suggestions in such a short time. I hope admins are going to tell us their thoughts on this soon.
Thank you all for your feedback. This feature came about during a Friday afternoon project so it wasn't a huge amount of effort that delayed other site features and improvements.
For now we're going to keep this test going. Our intent is to keep it as unobtrusive as possible so that for those who don't enjoy the feature don't need to use it.
Quote
Thank you all for your feedback. This feature came about during a Friday afternoon project so it wasn't a huge amount of effort that delayed other site features and improvements.
For now we're going to keep this test going. Our intent is to keep it as unobtrusive as possible so that for those who don't enjoy the feature don't need to use it.
Quote
I, for one, like it. I don't know what everyone is complaining about. Most other cam sites already have this feature implemented and it actually allows for MORE models to get viewed rather than less. So far, I notice it's given me the opportunity to meet girls whose rooms I never would've clicked into based on their thumbnail images and it's effectively refreshed my scenery here a bit.
Quote
I, for one, like it. I don't know what everyone is complaining about. Most other cam sites already have this feature implemented and it actually allows for MORE models to get viewed rather than less. So far, I notice it's given me the opportunity to meet girls whose rooms I never would've clicked into based on their thumbnail images and it's effectively refreshed my scenery here a bit.
It's a matter of perspective. I feel fortunate to have formed close connections with two performers. I don't log onto the site just to get off. I don't want to randomly flip through models' rooms. I've never visited any other cam site. So when a "Next" arrow suddenly and prominently appears in rooms of performers I care about, I'm offended for them and for myself.
If F4F staff are attached to the idea, the arrow can at least be placed in a less obvious place and all of us can have what we want.
Quote
It's a matter of perspective. I feel fortunate to have formed close connections with two performers. I don't log onto the site just to get off. I don't want to randomly flip through models' rooms. I've never visited any other cam site. So when a "Next" arrow suddenly and prominently appears in rooms of performers I care about, I'm offended for them and for myself.
If F4F staff are attached to the idea, the arrow can at least be placed in a less obvious place and all of us can have what we want.
Quote
It's a matter of perspective. I feel fortunate to have formed close connections with two performers. I don't log onto the site just to get off. I don't want to randomly flip through models' rooms. I've never visited any other cam site. So when a "Next" arrow suddenly and prominently appears in rooms of performers I care about, I'm offended for them and for myself.
If F4F staff are attached to the idea, the arrow can at least be placed in a less obvious place and all of us can have what we want.
You seem to have adapted something of a selfish process of thought. You claim that you "don't log on to the site just to get off" but let me ask you: what was it you first started coming on here for? Think of the new wave of customers -- younger ones, inexperienced ones, those who are still looking for the girls (or guys) with whom they can connect. The site shouldn't have to solely tailor to veterans like yourself. The placing of this needs to be "obvious" so that the feature can be thoroughly tested and evaluated. Is it harder for the Flirt team to keep putting resources into this to make a select few stubborn people happy or for you to move the arrow from your video where you have nothing to click on anyway?
Quote
Created by:
suggs
4/4/16 @ 11:56pm
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: Left of centre
Posts: 6,768
You seem to have adapted something of a selfish process of thought. You claim that you "don't log on to the site just to get off" but let me ask you: what was it you first started coming on here for? Think of the new wave of customers -- younger ones, inexperienced ones, those who are still looking for the girls (or guys) with whom they can connect. The site shouldn't have to solely tailor to veterans like yourself. The placing of this needs to be "obvious" so that the feature can be thoroughly tested and evaluated. Is it harder for the Flirt team to keep putting resources into this to make a select few stubborn people happy or for you to move the arrow from your video where you have nothing to click on anyway?
My question is why have the arrows on the actual video feed as ghosted buttons?
Surely a better option would be 2 simple buttons ABOVE the feed so they were more visible but less invasive. That way should keep the majority of users new and old happy.
Quote
Created by:
F4F Administrator
4/5/16 @ 12:00am
(EST) |UTC - 5:00
Location: California, USA
Posts: 3,429
My question is why have the arrows on the actual video feed as ghosted buttons? Surely a better option would be 2 simple buttons ABOVE the feed so they were more visible but less invasive. That way should keep the majority of users new and old happy.
The chat interface is some of the most contested real estate on the site and everything must work in concert at various screen sizes including mobile. Using hidden buttons that appear on hover on top of the video makes the best use of the real estate leaving other spots open for things that change based on show types, special promotions, etc.
Quote
The chat interface is some of the most contested real estate on the site and everything must work in concert at various screen sizes including mobile. Using hidden buttons that appear on hover on top of the video makes the best use of the real estate leaving other spots open for things that change based on show types, special promotions, etc.
Quote
honestly - i thought i was seeing things when this popped up - wasn't sure what it was or when it showed up. I have noticed an increase in new users / unfamiliar names in my fav model's room (which is good for her) but at the same time - I can see the issues that have been presented coming up - ie encouraging more "browsers" discouraging loyalty to a particular model, etc...
I would suggest that as a part of the decision to keep it or not - ask the models what they think. After all they are the ones who make the money for the site and are most impacted by this - Quote
I would suggest that as a part of the decision to keep it or not - ask the models what they think. After all they are the ones who make the money for the site and are most impacted by this - Quote
honestly - i thought i was seeing things when this popped up - wasn't sure what it was or when it showed up. I have noticed an increase in new users / unfamiliar names in my fav model's room (which is good for her) but at the same time - I can see the issues that have been presented coming up - ie encouraging more "browsers" discouraging loyalty to a particular model, etc...
I would suggest that as a part of the decision to keep it or not - ask the models what they think. After all they are the ones who make the money for the site and are most impacted by this -
As you stated yourself, girls are getting more exposure this way. Their regulars are going nowhere. I'm sure you're not going to abandon your girls just because you can more easily go on to the next one. So the models should, in theory, be happy with this change. As I stated above, I'm actually finding new girls who I love who I never would've thought to visit based on their thumbnails. I've always been annoyed by the thumbnail hover-over and this is a change that eliminates the need for me to have to do that to see what's going on in any room I may be curious about.
My problem with some of your guys' criticism about this feature is that you're veteran users who have come to find what you like here. I can't emphasize enough how much I think new users will love this feature because I know I certainly do.
If it's really the models you care about and not your own user experience, know that perpetual browsing is very unlikely with this. It's a convenience but it won't be overused. Users will only be clicking so much until they stumble upon the girls they like -- just like all of you complainers.
Quote
I would suggest that as a part of the decision to keep it or not - ask the models what they think. After all they are the ones who make the money for the site and are most impacted by this -
As you stated yourself, girls are getting more exposure this way. Their regulars are going nowhere. I'm sure you're not going to abandon your girls just because you can more easily go on to the next one. So the models should, in theory, be happy with this change. As I stated above, I'm actually finding new girls who I love who I never would've thought to visit based on their thumbnails. I've always been annoyed by the thumbnail hover-over and this is a change that eliminates the need for me to have to do that to see what's going on in any room I may be curious about.
My problem with some of your guys' criticism about this feature is that you're veteran users who have come to find what you like here. I can't emphasize enough how much I think new users will love this feature because I know I certainly do.
If it's really the models you care about and not your own user experience, know that perpetual browsing is very unlikely with this. It's a convenience but it won't be overused. Users will only be clicking so much until they stumble upon the girls they like -- just like all of you complainers.
Quote
