Have to say in general the site is pretty much free of harassing viewers, but had first hand experience of one very nice performer on the site who had to deal with one.
It seems that the performer may in fact know this person in real life, and was doing his best to tell the guy in the most calm way to merely leave the room. This is not a gay issue per say as the performer states he is not gay but I believe BI. The performer has an awesome group in the room enjoying their time with him, but it just takes this one guy to disrupt things. The banning option does not work as the guy manages to return if only as a grey viewer. Blocking the grey viewers is an option, but I have a feeling that while we cannot see what greys say the performer might, plus the fact that the performer knows he is still in the room can cause a distraction.
I really feel for this guy, and was of the opinion that if someone in admin could actually come into the chat room as a viewer and try to address this problem they would see what is going on.
If anyone has any ideas I hope you post something. No performer on this site should have to deal with this type of situation. No sure if this is the place to posted this, but heck at least it is worth a try.
Sorry for all the babble, but think the site is more about having a good time rather than a lot of dang drama.
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I think what really is needed is an additional instrument for performers to mark users who repeatedly behave inappropriately with a "sticky note". I am not talking about a "report abuse" button, cause first of all you need to hear both sides, but just mark them.
[1] It would be easier for f4f admins to see, if such behaviour is specific to a certain performer or if that user likes to ask for trouble in general and from there take further measures.
[2] Accumulated marks (e.g. within a week) should lead to an automatic ban for evt. more than the typical 24h for a specific room, or when accumulated in many different rooms, maybe for 24h from the whole site. I'd say a specific performer should not be able to set more than 1 mark a day, cause he can still ban that user for 24h from his room.
[3] Also any other performer should be able to see, if a user "known for bad behaviour in the last xyz hours" is entering their room.

I've been seeing some of those a few times myself and it gets me, when the performer tells me how stressing this is. Sometimes a "I'm on a break" for 1 min is enough to get rid of them, but if it gets personal or obsessive . And yes, other users might not even notice what is happening, so the performer might feel pretty alone on this.

Important topic fishy!
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Hi there, fishy .. really interesting topic, but think about it... even if they are have a bad behavior they spend money and they cannot be taken away from website. You are talking now about perfect thing but I am sadly sure that wont be possible . Just in chase that a member is harassing a performer several times it's need to act, like banning the member from site or things like that. We also have a tool to ban ip, but never knew where I get the ip from.

So conclusion is that is not possible :P or maybe its just my thoughts.

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.as a performer here I feel this is a big issue and I have actually ran across it a decent amout of times, I haven't ran into the grey member problem where they switch to that, that is new to me. I generally ban them and then go into the ban option to continuously ban them........ I have never ran into an issue where its someone I know however because I have my direct location filtered out in general from the site.....ontop of I don't have my real location listed on my page for those reasons alone, maybe you can send this performer a message with this advice if it bothers him its someone he knows, as far as being harassing and ruining the chat like the old saying sometimes there is always one in the crowd Quote

I think models already have plenty of effective tools at their disposal to handle such issues. No need to add other options leaving models wondering which do I use for this or that. Just keep it simple and use what is already at each models disposal already. If a situation arises where a model needs help they can email the site for immediate assistance getting a rep in the room. Quote

Hi there, fishy .. really interesting topic, but think about it... even if they are have a bad behavior they spend money and they cannot be taken away from website. You are talking now about perfect thing but I am sadly sure that wont be possible . Just in chase that a member is harassing a performer several times it's need to act, like banning the member from site or things like that. We also have a tool to ban ip, but never knew where I get the ip from.

So conclusion is that is not possible :P or maybe its just my thoughts.





I have been ban for not going priv or not tipping in a model room do MODELS really want to put the power to ban someone from your room in another model hands that is what ban from the site is Quote

I do believe that the site has the ability to enter any chat room to actually see what is going on. In the past they generally showed up with the name studio. Not sure if they still can do this, but it would give them a first hand idea of what the performer was dealing with.
This in my opinion should be the last resort option in any case.
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Have to say in general the site is pretty much free of harassing viewers, but had first hand experience of one very nice performer on the site who had to deal with one.
It seems that the performer may in fact know this person in real life, and was doing his best to tell the guy in the most calm way to merely leave the room. This is not a gay issue per say as the performer states he is not gay but I believe BI. The performer has an awesome group in the room enjoying their time with him, but it just takes this one guy to disrupt things. The banning option does not work as the guy manages to return if only as a grey viewer. Blocking the grey viewers is an option, but I have a feeling that while we cannot see what greys say the performer might, plus the fact that the performer knows he is still in the room can cause a distraction.
I really feel for this guy, and was of the opinion that if someone in admin could actually come into the chat room as a viewer and try to address this problem they would see what is going on.
If anyone has any ideas I hope you post something. No performer on this site should have to deal with this type of situation. No sure if this is the place to posted this, but heck at least it is worth a try.
Sorry for all the babble, but think the site is more about having a good time rather than a lot of dang drama.
Thanks for taking the time to read what I have posted.


all models must be ready for situations kinda that. I'm not so clearly understanding in what's problem?
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Have to say in general the site is pretty much free of harassing viewers, but had first hand experience of one very nice performer on the site who had to deal with one.
It seems that the performer may in fact know this person in real life, and was doing his best to tell the guy in the most calm way to merely leave the room. This is not a gay issue per say as the performer states he is not gay but I believe BI. The performer has an awesome group in the room enjoying their time with him, but it just takes this one guy to disrupt things. The banning option does not work as the guy manages to return if only as a grey viewer. Blocking the grey viewers is an option, but I have a feeling that while we cannot see what greys say the performer might, plus the fact that the performer knows he is still in the room can cause a distraction.
I really feel for this guy, and was of the opinion that if someone in admin could actually come into the chat room as a viewer and try to address this problem they would see what is going on.
If anyone has any ideas I hope you post something. No performer on this site should have to deal with this type of situation. No sure if this is the place to posted this, but heck at least it is worth a try.
Sorry for all the babble, but think the site is more about having a good time rather than a lot of dang drama.
Thanks for taking the time to read what I have posted.





I think the problem lies is in management that gives the model its tools, I personally feel secure in my room and f4f gives us tools to calm such cases of abuse of a member to a model.

we know that models have several options to treat each customer abuse, and if you do not remember is the'll describe below one by one.

1-silence or dumb: the model can be stopped with your mouse in the nickname of the customer and give this option to serving, so that the client can not copy him the model while trying badly, thus have no more abuse by aggressive member so to call it somehow.

2- blocked: also called expulsion of the customer for a specified time of 24 hours, but all models know that that option is not very convenient for us because if we block or expel any member of our room, the page we automatically will reduce the points Pulse model has been obtained online at that time.

3 is the option of getting the member of our room: it is also �ltil, since most clients to be put out of our rooms do not return, as well as are the members who return to follow mistreating vervalmente for having expelled from our room chat.

4.alerta: this is a button exclusive use only when a customer is exceeding its limit of rudeness towards a model, sometimes happens immediately there comes a product manager and talk to the customer and we solved the problem.

5-There is also the option to permanently block nikname customer or also block site inhabited this client, although the latter option is not recommended because obviously in the area where you can hubicarse the client also open more members you quizax enter your room and to block that area you will never see.

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